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CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« on: January 24, 2012, 10:49:25 AM »
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Back in 2003, responding to a CDC report on binge drinking, I noted that "one man's dinner party is another man's binge—especially if the other man has a degree in public health." Based on more recent survey data, the CDC now warns that "binge drinking* is a bigger problem than previously thought," involving 38 million American adults. That asterisk is well-earned, because the CDC continues to define "binge drinking" as "men drinking 5 or more alcoholic drinks within a short period of time or women drinking 4 or more drinks within a short period of time."

Bureaucritters at the CDC also have earned their place against the wall, as being more puritanical than the Puritans ( http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=19281.0 )

Do read on for an example of junk science used as a lever to lobby for more political power and less liberty.
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 10:55:18 AM »
How is "short period of time" defined? Fifteen minutes is a rather short period of time for the number of drinks specified.
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 10:58:18 AM »
Quote from: cambeul41 on January 24, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
How is "short period of time" defined? Fifteen minutes is a rather short period of time for the number of drinks specified.

You hit the nail on the head.  It is indeterminate and subjective unto each respondent in the survey.
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 11:00:04 AM »
Reduce the definition to 3 and 2 drinks and it will be an even BIGGER problem!
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 11:13:34 AM »
so my st patty's day irish car bomb tradition is bad?
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 12:06:27 PM »
my definition? 4-5 drinks an hour for more than 2 hours straight.or more than a 12 pack per 2 hour period. heck my sop was to go out with friends and hammer 3 shots in 15 mins with a mixed chaser get supper tuned then drink soda after first 2 hours.  and i was the one elected to drive home . 6b hours of sodas and i was in ok shape
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 08:38:04 PM »
 Before I got sober I used to go nuts tying to figure out how much was enough to have fun but not so much as to cause memory loss.

For me its really simple, if I do not drink then I wont get drunk.

in the 1980's it was one beer/one shot of Wild Turkey repeat ad infinitum.

 
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 06:34:37 AM »
Far as I'm concerned, if there was a glass involved, I wasn't binge drinking. When a fifth of Cuervo becomes a single serving, that may indeed be a binge. Not two double shots in whatever froufy mixed drink happens to strike my fancy.
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 07:29:54 AM »
Quote from: BridgeRunner on January 25, 2012, 06:34:37 AM
Far as I'm concerned, if there was a glass involved, I wasn't binge drinking. When a fifth of Cuervo becomes a single serving, that may indeed be a binge. Not two double shots in whatever froufy mixed drink happens to strike my fancy.

Been there, never even put the bottle down. I allegedly fell off the porch. Woke up at 5am and felt great, that's because the hangover didn't set in until 3pm.

The record was $500 canadian spent on alcohol in a night. Not just me, sometimes the best way to rid yourself of a jerk is to line him up 6 shots and dare him. Boom, problem solved. Only time i ever got ejected from an establishment too, but that was hours later and that waitress deserved it.
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 08:06:31 AM »
I love this quote. It should be right out of a Monty Python sketch, but rather is from Matthew 11

“To what can I compare this generation? They are like children ... For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’  The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard'..."
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 10:47:52 AM »
Quote from: French G. on January 25, 2012, 07:29:54 AM
Been there, never even put the bottle down. I allegedly fell off the porch. Woke up at 5am and felt great, that's because the hangover didn't set in until 3pm.

Ah, I nursed that bottle of Cuervo for about six hours, and had a bit left for the morning. But when I put the bottle down, it was cuz we were headed to the bar. Yeah, that's binging. But the CDC's job is to lower the bar for binging down to "maybe I shouldn't drive home" so they can encourage hand-wringing and even more federal funding for the "epidemic". This is I became "obese" (by a margin of one pound). I was fat. Wasn't obese. Just...wasn't, not remotely. But hard to wring hands over the obesity epidemic if it only affects the truly humongous.
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Re: CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 02:49:23 PM »
Quote from: Stand_watie on January 25, 2012, 08:06:31 AM
I love this quote. It should be right out of a Monty Python sketch, but rather is from Matthew 11

“To what can I compare this generation? They are like children ... For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’  The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard'..."


I forgot that one. John (the Baptist) was fasting, and they thought he was nuts. Jesus ate and drank, and they said he was a pig.  :lol:
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