Author Topic: Clearances pulled for Secret Service Agents (Read 15187 times)

Ben · « **on:** April 17, 2012, 10:16:06 AM »

Looks like they pulled the clearances for the entire team in the prostitute incident. I'm guessing there's a few innocent agents in the mix.

I have to wonder what a Secret Service agent can even do without an active clearance? I'm not even sure they could do something like teach at FLETC without a clearance, or even do office work.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/16/pentagon-may-expand-probe-military-members-in-colombia-amid-prostitution/?test=latestnews#ixzz1sHio8300

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:28:08 AM »

More than likely they are done. Also the military members involved are toast also.

Shame when just a few give the whole a black eye.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:30:37 AM »

IMHO, my money is on tip of the iceberg. They were just caught.
Jetsetting the world on the taxpayer dime, young horny type A personalities.
I doubt this was an isolated incident.

Tallpine · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:38:26 AM »

Where's the fun in being a Secret Agent if you can't do things that are naughty and illegal ?

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:39:00 AM »

They got caught by not following the rules of the hotel and by not paying for the pro.

makattak · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:44:44 AM »

This is what I told my wife last night when she was shocked to hear about this:

I'd much prefer virtuous and professional individuals in the Secret Service. But, if I can't get virtuous and professional, I'd at least like smart.

These guys were not only sleazy, they were stupid. $49??? Who cares if you think you're getting cheated, you are committing a crime while in the employ of the SECRET SERVICE. PAY THE WOMAN and shut up.

Tallpine · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:46:42 AM »

Quote from: makattak on April 17, 2012, 10:44:44 AM

This is what I told my wife last night when she was shocked to hear about this:

I'd much prefer virtuous and professional individuals in the Secret Service. But, if I can't get virtuous and professional, I'd at least like smart.

These guys were not only sleazy, they were stupid. $49??? Who cares if you think you're getting cheated, you are committing a crime while in the employ of the SECRET SERVICE. PAY THE WOMAN and shut up.

Sorta what I said about BJ Clinton: how can you manage the affairs of the nation if you can't manage your own affairs?

Ben · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:51:41 AM »

Quote from: makattak on April 17, 2012, 10:44:44 AM

I'd much prefer virtuous and professional individuals in the Secret Service. But, if I can't get virtuous and professional, I'd at least like smart.

FTW. What kind of moron, knowing he's breaking all kinds of regs, would argue about the lousy 49 ducats instead of just paying and staying on the down low? It's almost like "dumb bad cop" in a B movie.

Though I would argue that there is a very good point raised re: blackmail and other potential threats, when you think with the brain in your wiener instead of the brain in your brain.

TechMan · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2012, 11:17:28 AM »

Quote from: Ben on April 17, 2012, 10:51:41 AM

FTW. What kind of moron, knowing he's breaking all kinds of regs, would argue about the lousy 49 ducats instead of just paying and staying on the down low? It's almost like "dumb bad cop" in a B movie.

Though I would argue that there is a very good point raised re: blackmail and other potential threats, when you think with the brain in your wiener instead of the brain in your brain.

I see a little problem called EGO involved.

HankB · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2012, 01:00:45 PM »

Quote from: Jamisjockey on April 17, 2012, 10:30:37 AM

IMHO, my money is on tip of the iceberg. They were just caught.

Yep - just like the GSA party scandal, I think incidents like these that come to light represent a fraction - a small fraction - of the misconduct that is routine among government employees; it's like they're the new nobility, entitled to lord it over mere peasants to whom rules and standards actually apply . . .

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2012, 01:22:29 PM »

Quote from: Tallpine on April 17, 2012, 10:38:26 AM

Where's the fun in being a Secret Agent if you can't do things that are naughty and illegal ?

wasn't illegal

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2012, 01:23:35 PM »

Quote from: adively on April 17, 2012, 11:17:28 AM

I see a little problem called EGO involved.

and booze it does not make you smarter just makes you think you are

gunsmith · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2012, 03:12:52 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on April 17, 2012, 01:22:29 PM

wasn't illegal

ya, I heard the other day that "escort" type "dates" are legal in Colombia.
probably against SS policy though.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2012, 03:20:43 PM »

Why is no one asking the real question? ARE THESE WOMEN FORCED TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN CONTRACEPTION?

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2012, 06:07:46 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on April 17, 2012, 01:22:29 PM

wasn't illegal

Quote from: gunsmith on April 17, 2012, 03:12:52 PM

ya, I heard the other day that "escort" type "dates" are legal in Colombia.
probably against SS policy though.

^^^This, the DoD a couple of years ago made it policy and punishable by UCMJ action to use prostitutes, even if they are legal in the country you are in at the time.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2012, 06:09:37 PM »

Can you still use regular women?

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2012, 06:18:00 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/17/up-to-21-women-brought-to-colombia-hotel-by-agents-and-military-members-senator/

Now it looks like a total of 21 involved, 11 Secret Service agents and 10 Service members.

Quote from: fistful on April 17, 2012, 06:09:37 PM

Can you still use regular women?

If you mean one night stand(s) without quid pro quo involved, yes.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #17 on:** April 17, 2012, 06:24:45 PM »

there is always a quid pro quo. all that varies is currency and rate

MillCreek · « **Reply #18 on:** April 17, 2012, 07:09:16 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on April 17, 2012, 06:24:45 PM

there is always a quid pro quo. all that varies is currency and rate

Say it, brother!

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #19 on:** April 17, 2012, 07:38:03 PM »

Quote from: wmenorr67 on April 17, 2012, 06:07:46 PM

^^^This, the DoD a couple of years ago made it policy and punishable by UCMJ action to use prostitutes, even if they are legal in the country you are in at the time.

Hadn't heard that. That would have been an interesting and likely unenforceable rule back in the hay days of Subic Bay.
Pretty much 80% or better of the economy of Olongapo and surrounding towns was related to the sex trade.

Ron · « **Reply #20 on:** April 17, 2012, 08:03:29 PM »

The libertarian in me says "whatever", I can disagree with their choices morally and not feel obligated to speak my mind.

If they broke rules they have agreed to as part of their career choice, adios! Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on your way to private sector work.

The other disturbing part of this is the probability of underage girls being involved. That from what I understand is one of the allures of 2nd/3rd world brothels and escort services. Sworn to uphold our constitution while lining the pockets of those who traffic the flesh of the powerless? They deserve to spend some time in prison for such a breach of trust.

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2012, 08:30:52 PM »

How is this different from the stuff Navy sailors do when on shore leave in Bankgok?

Or is there some kind of NO PROSTITUTES rule for the Secret Service?

K Frame · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2012, 08:31:23 PM »

Apparently a much bigger issue is that there were uncleared people in controlled areas, which is a HUGE no no.

They damned well should lose their clearances over that.

In fact, I wouldn't have any heart burn if some of them faced criminal charges.

seeker_two · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2012, 09:21:44 PM »

Silly Agents.....hookers are for politicians.....

Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas · « **Reply #24 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:46:26 PM »

Quote from: wmenorr67 on April 17, 2012, 06:07:46 PM

^^^This, the DoD a couple of years ago made it policy and punishable by UCMJ action to use prostitutes, even if they are legal in the country you are in at the time.

Why? It seems bizarre that the military would become more puritanical in this day and age.

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Author Topic: Clearances pulled for Secret Service Agents (Read 15187 times)