The Longer the Shutdown the better for the American People

[Scout26]

Why?

Yes, the MSM is blaming the R's for everything.  BFD.  They did before and and will after.   However, in the battle for the hearts and minds of the people this war is playing out one by one.

1)  Obamacare has started, the exchanges are are open.  Many people are going to look.  There were several news stories about how many hits it had gotten on it's first few days.  Yet I also a couple of stories like "Zero people sign up for Obamacare in Louisiana."  and "People unable to enroll in Obamacare due to many glitches."  People calling the 1-800-F1UCKYO number being on hold for hours and hours.  Or being told to expect a callback at X time, and that call never coming.

Then there are the stories of people seeing the rates and saying "Screw that." and not enrolling.  

Obamacare's implementation seems to be the Titanic in slow motion.

2)  Despite the news media, most people still are going on with their daily lives uneffected.  Which explains the desperate measures taken to ensure that shutdown "hurts".  (e.g.  http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/shutdown-theater-feds-now-barricading-scenic-overlooks/ )  The longer this goes on more stupid they will pile on.  Even the media is taking note as to how much is "non-essential"   http://ideas.time.com/2013/10/04/shutdown-highlights-basic-fact-most-of-government-is-non-essential/   It's TIME magazine for chrissakes !!!  Former home of Obama mouthpiece Jay Carney.

So Let's go Shutdown !!  The longer it lasts, the weaker Obama and Democrats become.  They can't afford to let the people know how little they need them,   so expect more things like threatening not to Social Security or Veterans Benefits.   They have make us feel the pain and come running to them to save us from the mean and evil Republicans.  

Really, who's evil ??  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9tJVpxO2Fc

[Ben]

I actually like the other term I've been hearing for this - "slimdown". Because it really isn't a true shutdown. That is one thing in the R's favor. If it were a full-fledged shutdown, the D's would probably be getting a lot more public support.

[French G.]

I figure the longer the shutdown the better chance for Obama or Michelle Antoinette to utter something so outrageous that the torches and pitchforks come out. And I'm okay with that.

[Scout26]

Actually, the more I think about it, this thread should be titled "The Longer the Shutdown the better for the American People."

[Sergeant Bob]

I figure the longer the shutdown the better chance for Obama or Michelle Antoinette to utter something so outrageous that the torches and pitchforks come out. And I'm okay with that.

I really like that!

[MechAg94]

That sad thing is that the Republicans could have forced this at almost any time in the last 3 or 4 years, but chose not to.  Would they have done this if Ted Cruz and others hadn't been banging the drums for more action?

Now they are playing another move by passing individual funding bills.  I like that.

[Tallpine]

This is looking more like a "lockdown" than a "shutdown" 

[MillCreek]

They should go all in: stop mailing social security and federal pension checks.  I suspect Congress would come around quickly then.

[Tallpine]

They should go all in: stop mailing social security and federal pension checks.  I suspect Congress would come around quickly then.

Come around to what?   

Maybe "furlough" all the non-essential stuff permanently 

[Kingcreek]

What's the difference. Government is dysfunctional when it's not shutdown.
The longer this goes on, the more people will realize we don't really need all this government. Some parts yes, but a lot of it is just money sucking waste, sort of like unemployment benefits disguised as jobs.

[cordex]

The longer this goes on, the more people will realize we don't really need all this government. Some parts yes, but a lot of it is just money sucking waste, sort of like unemployment benefits disguised as jobs.

Moreover, there are pieces of the government that hire good people who do good (if not particularly necessary) things.

That we can't afford.

[AZRedhawk44]

I think the credit valve is going to involuntarily slam SHUT in the next 3 months.  And this is the beginning of it.

[KD5NRH]

Now they are playing another move by passing individual funding bills.  I like that.

Exactly how I adjust my own budget sometimes; stop paying for anything but rent, electric, water, food and enough gas to get to work.  Other things get added back over time if I miss them enough to accept their opportunity cost.

[Scout26]

Here we go.  Just picking the two states that have numbers: 
CT:  28,000 got to Insurance exchange, but only 167 sign up.  .5964% of those that visit.
KY:  24,000 hits, 1235 sign up = 5.14% of those that go visit.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/few-sign-up-obamacare/2013/10/02/id/528966


I'm not thinking that Obamacare is going to hit the numbers it needs to make the math go.

[lee n. field]

I still haven't got through. 

I strongly suspect what I'm offered will be unaffordable, and I'll be deemed to have too high of an income for welfare medicine.  Just like now.

I have an app in with Medishare ("we are not insurance, blahblahblah) , for what is basically catastrophic coverage.  We shall see.

[Gowen]

It's just like SSI, they need a lot more young healthy people to sign up to pay for the old sickly ones and it isn't happening.  Second, the "tax" that the people pay instead of signing up is just going to go to the general fund and the crack hoes in washington will never keep their hands off of it.  They robbed SSI blind, they'll rob this too.

[freakazoid]

 People calling the 1-800-F1UCKYO number being on hold for hours and hours.  Or being told to expect a callback at X time, and that call never coming.

  How fitting.

[Perd Hapley]

Obama's job approval numbers are nose-diving.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

[TechMan]

Obama's job approval numbers are nose-diving.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

What says he pays attention to his approval rating?

[lee n. field]

Obama's job approval numbers are nose-diving.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

not how i'd read that chart.  steady since april.  what's amazing is if it was ever as high as claimed for february.

[Perd Hapley]

not how i'd read that chart.  steady since april.  what's amazing is if it was ever as high as claimed for february.

That's February '09. What's interesting is the way it suddenly ticks down right there at the end.

[RocketMan]

His numbers have held steady in the low to mid-forties almost forever.  This is probably just a normal fluctuation, just noise.

[lee n. field]

That's February '09. What's interesting is the way it suddenly ticks down right there at the end.

It is.  Interesting that it's displayed that way.

[Perd Hapley]

The chart shows his approve/disapprove numbers throughout his presidency, but you can adjust for the desired time period. Go to the smaller graph below the graph, and move the bars on the left and right side.

[RocketMan]

Obama had similar numbers during much of his 2012 re-election campaign.  And yet he was re-elected handily.