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Game on, air strikes in Syria
« on: September 22, 2014, 10:27:54 PM »
Looks like the next chapter has opened.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/world/middleeast/us-and-allies-hit-isis-targets-in-syria.html?_r=0&referrer=

Hopefully we're bombing the "right" goat pokers.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 10:37:37 PM »
I'm sure that it will all work out well just like everything else we have done in the Middle East  =D
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 06:50:22 AM »
Wait for the outcry when ISIS/ISIL starts hiding in populated areas of Syria and "innocent" women and children are killed.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 08:03:53 AM »
Wait for the outcry when ISIS/ISIL starts hiding in populated areas of Syria and "innocent" women and children are killed.

I was listening to BBC Radio this morning and reports are that isis is already moving in to residential areas.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 08:29:03 AM »
I was listening to BBC Radio this morning and reports are that isis is already moving in to residential areas.

Cockroaches will do that.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 09:35:24 AM »
Personally,  I do not support this action.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 09:53:17 AM »
Is Syria not a sovereign nation? WTF
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 10:11:24 AM »
Is Syria not a sovereign nation? WTF

Yeah, but populated by brown people.  It doesn't really count.

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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 11:51:49 AM »
Air strikes are meh, Obama drone murders plenty of men women and children every day all over the globe anyway. This just expands that a bit and puts a PR spin on it.

I'm more worried about the "arming the opposition" thing. I remember how well that worked out when we have arms and training to our good buddy Osama Bin Laden.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 11:53:12 AM »
Is Syria not a sovereign nation? WTF

Let's see, a while back we were going to bomb syria.gov because they used gas on the rebels.  Now we are bombing the rebels.  
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 11:55:36 AM »
I heard a talking head say that the Tomahawk is to be phased out by 2016 and the replacement system won't be in place until 2018, as we're burning through existing inventory. Can anyone confirm or have additional detail?
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2014, 02:41:42 PM »
Let's see, a while back we were going to bomb syria.gov because they used gas on the rebels.  Now we are bombing the rebels.  


But McCain is for it before he was against it after he was ok with arming them.  
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 05:29:55 PM »
But McCain is for it before he was against it after he was ok with arming them.

Just think of those as throwdown weapons.  After all, if they weren't armed, it would be much harder to justify bombing them.

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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 07:52:21 PM »
Is Syria not a sovereign nation? WTF

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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 08:27:08 PM »
Interesting dance.  http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/world/meast/isis-airstrikes/


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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2014, 09:38:48 PM »
Tell me again why one instance of bombing a sovereign nation is a declaration of war and another is a limited kinetic action that just ain't no thang.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2014, 06:42:22 AM »
Tell me again why one instance of bombing a sovereign nation is a declaration of war and another is a limited kinetic action that just ain't no thang.

We aren't targeting Syrian government or military targets unless "known" to house ISIS/ISIL leadership/members.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2014, 08:36:28 AM »
Tell me again what threat ISIS(L) poses to the USA?  Sure, it would be nice to help protect Christians for once rather than ingrate Muslims who hate us, but I don't see "Fidei Defensor" as one of the roles assigned to any branch of the US gov't.

Truly, the last 40 years we have pursued a foreign policy in the Middle East that is inimical to the interests of America and Christians living in the ME.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2014, 09:47:50 AM »
I wonder what the $/terrorist figure is right now?  I figure it has to be over $1 Million. 
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2014, 10:06:46 AM »
Tell me again what threat ISIS(L) poses to the USA?  Sure, it would be nice to help protect Christians for once rather than ingrate Muslims who hate us, but I don't see "Fidei Defensor" as one of the roles assigned to any branch of the US gov't.

Truly, the last 40 years we have pursued a foreign policy in the Middle East that is inimical to the interests of America and Christians living in the ME.

Rather be bombing and killing them over there than trying to fight them here.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2014, 10:19:35 AM »
Tell me again why one instance of bombing a sovereign nation is a declaration of war and another is a limited kinetic action that just ain't no thang.

It depends on what country does the bombing  ;)

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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2014, 10:40:20 AM »
Rather be bombing and killing them over there than trying to fight them here.

I suspect if we weren't killing them over there directly or by proxy, we wouldn't need to fight them over here.

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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2014, 10:47:21 AM »
Tell me again what threat ISIS(L) poses to the USA?  Sure, it would be nice to help protect Christians for once rather than ingrate Muslims who hate us, but I don't see "Fidei Defensor" as one of the roles assigned to any branch of the US gov't.

Truly, the last 40 years we have pursued a foreign policy in the Middle East that is inimical to the interests of America and Christians living in the ME.

There are two reporters that probably think ISIS is dangerous.
Oooops, that's wrong. They're dead, they can't consider anything.
ISIS has claimed that they will be flying the Islamic flag over the White House.
Maybe we should wait until they actually are DOING THAT before we whack them.

Not that I like Obama or have, or would, vote for him for so much as dog catcher, but it IS time he got off his derriere and did something.  Shame is ISIS has had enough time to prepare that we're probably bombing empty buildings.
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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2014, 11:01:45 AM »
ISIS has claimed that they will be flying the Islamic flag over the White House.
Maybe we should wait until they actually are DOING THAT before we whack them.

Haven't they been doing that for six years already?

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Re: Game on, air strikes in Syria
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2014, 11:08:36 AM »
Rather be bombing and killing them over there than trying to fight them here.

Um, how's about denying entry to the USA of anyone from the Middle East?  And Muslims from the ME, especially?  They have no right to come here and our gov't has the duty to protect the country from them.  We need not a single one of them on our soil.  Any co-religionists and countrymen not yet American citizens can be tossed out to return home.  American citizens found to have supported or trained or fought with ISIS or any foreign power can follow them.

And let Assad turn them into chum.

There are two reporters that probably think ISIS is dangerous.
Oooops, that's wrong. They're dead, they can't consider anything.
ISIS has claimed that they will be flying the Islamic flag over the White House.
Maybe we should wait until they actually are DOING THAT before we whack them.

Not that I like Obama or have, or would, vote for him for so much as dog catcher, but it IS time he got off his derriere and did something.  Shame is ISIS has had enough time to prepare that we're probably bombing empty buildings.
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Someday this country is going to HAVE TO face the reality that radical Islam is a grave danger to both us and the world.

Again, why do we let them & their sort inside the USA in the first place? 

Also, a threat has to be credible.  ISIS has yet to demonstrate any capability to project power beyond the Levant.  Beheading journalists who blundered about in ISIS territory is not a sign that they can hit America.

Frankly, I don't care if most folk over there DIAF.  The longer they hack at each other, the better.
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