Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: HankB on July 27, 2020, 05:50:33 PM
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Car encounters protestors in Austin, TX, peacefully blocking a street. Horn honked, car encounters a barricade and stops. Armed protestor approaches car and is shot dead. Car leaves, another protestor shoots at departing car. Police question & release both shooters. More investigation pending.
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200725/austin-protest-shooting-victim-remembered-for-devotion-to-fianceacutee-racial-justice
Crappy video of protest during shooting: https://www.facebook.com/ImHiram/videos/295346775139805/?t=9328
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regardless of the facts I suspect the the driver/shooter will be
prosecuted persecuted the fullest extent of the law mob justice and will likely serve a lenghty jail sentence.
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They (all of 'em) are really laying it on thick in support of the Peaceful Protester®. If he *really* cared about his disabled fiancee so much, he wouldn't have got himself shot by using an AK to threatened some rando in a car.
IMHO, they should not even be calling him the victim. The neutral word (because the investigation is barely started at this point) is "deceased".
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If I'm stopped illegally by an armed mob I will assume they are attempting carjacking or Reginald Denny and I will act thusly.
I believe this to be a reasonable and logical position with historical basis.
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If I'm stopped illegally by an armed mob I will assume they are attempting carjacking or Reginald Denny and I will act thusly.
I believe this to be a reasonable and logical position with historical basis.
And it's getting more reasonable by the day.
Given the location, I could see this paralleling the case in the St. Louis - the locals will be out for blood, but the state government steps in and shuts it down.
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What do you call one dead
retard "protester" in Austin?
A good start.
For all of their big talk, this is what real looks like. *expletive deleted*ck around and find out.
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It's showing up on Facebook that this selfless protestor was pushing his disabled wife in her wheelchair when he was wantonly and randomly executed by the driver of the SUV, who then fled the scene...
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It's showing up on Facebook that this selfless protestor was pushing his disabled wife in her wheelchair when he was wantonly and randomly executed by the driver of the SUV, who then fled the scene...
That's only a slight exaggeration of the main stream media reports. I can see how they'd get there from what's being reported, even w/o being Facebook idiots.
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It's showing up on Facebook that this selfless protestor was pushing his disabled wife in her wheelchair when he was wantonly and randomly executed by the driver of the SUV, who then fled the scene...
Don't believe your lying eyes!
Right up there with Zimmerman chased down little 8 year old Martin and shot him in the back.
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I am told you can see in one or two videos that the AK guy did in fact point his rifle at the guy in the car. I haven't seen that.
And if you haven't seen it elsewhere, the guy fled the area and called 911 like most people would.
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I am told you can see in one or two videos that the AK guy did in fact point his rifle at the guy in the car. I haven't seen that.
And if you haven't seen it elsewhere, the guy fled the area and called 911 like most people would.
There's a blurry video that appears to show him bringing it up, but in the still I've seen it looks to me more like low ready.
(https://i.imgur.com/tkIqMTq.png)
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Tony Heller did and audio analysis on the video. The first 5 shots were Louder and lower pitch, from a rifle. The 3 following shots were not as loud, and higher pitch, from a pistol.
Of course, Youtube took it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWarhdskkHk
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Tony Heller did and audio analysis on the video. The first 5 shots were Louder and lower pitch, from a rifle. The 3 following shots were not as loud, and higher pitch, from a pistol.
Of course, Youtube took it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWarhdskkHk
Could the first 5 shots been from a louder pistol? That would match the story that there were two shooters with handguns, the driver, and someone who shot at him as he drove away. (I neither believe nor disbelieve the story)
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Could the first 5 shots been from a louder pistol? That would match the story that there were two shooters with handguns, the driver, and someone who shot at him as he drove away. (I neither believe nor disbelieve the story)
I hadn't heard about the 2nd pistol shooter until today, but that does make some sense. Also pretty stupid to start shooting when he is driving away.
Is low ready enough to earn shots? In isolation where nothing else was happening, probably not. Doing that while part of a mob of other people who are surrounding this guy's vehicle? That changes things IMO. It ties him to the actions of those around him. I really don't know how the courts would look on that issue.
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Is low ready enough to earn shots?
Note that the still frame shown is - as far as I can tell - just the clearest view in a hectic recording, not the instant before shots are fired. The gun may well have been brought up from there.
I'm curious who yelled out "back up" before shots were fired.
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Someone I know a little on facebook posted this. He is from up North and I think did not know about it. He is a liberal, but didn't comment on it other than to ask why it happened. Pretty biased description. Makes it look like a drive by shooting. Passed on a link and basic description of events.
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/115931249_4911122895565316_6736513825639696408_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=gmS41zOqMXYAX9ml7QD&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=caff9dad9effe8f13b1b62fa50c01163&oe=5F46D3B6)
Garrett Foster was murdered in downtown Austin, Texas, last night while pushing his wife, Whitney, a quadriplegic, in her wheelchair along Congress Avenue in a Black Lives Matter march. A car came from a side street into the crowd, the driver fired at least 10 shots into the crowd, and sped away.
Garrett & Whitney had attended the downtown marches every night for the past several weeks, they were well-known and loved. Peace to their families.
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Well, we know he wasn't a leg man.
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I just find it odd that he was there with his girlfriend and let himself be caught up with the other protestors/rioters. Sounds like he didn't think about the consequences of bringing a rifle into a situation like that.
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Garrett Foster was murdered in downtown Austin, Texas, last night while pushing his wife, Whitney, a quadriplegic, in her wheelchair along Congress Avenue in a Black Lives Matter march. A car came from a side street into the crowd, the driver fired at least 10 shots into the crowd, and sped away.
Garrett & Whitney had attended the downtown marches every night for the past several weeks, they were well-known and loved. Peace to their families.
Are they trying to gaslight us here? Everything I read has been about a girlfriend or fiance. Now he's been posthumously promoted to Husband?
What uniform is that? Guard?
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There's also a distinct lack of "woman in wheelchair" in the pictures of him mobbing a car with an AK, so it would seem "shot while pushing his girlfriend " is a lie as well.
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"Are they trying to gaslight us here? Everything I read has been about a girlfriend or fiance. Now he's been posthumously promoted to Husband?"
Why not? He's being promoted to selfless martyr who was criminally gunned down while taking cookies to orphans and holy water to nuns...
Why not go a little farther. At least they haven't promoted him to father of 6 disadvantaged yoots yet.
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If you look around at the related twitter posts on some of the video links on this story you can see people posting all sorts of nonsense, mostly in the first 24 hours of the event.
People have a tendency to believe the first things they hear which sets up their opinion of events and are reluctant to change once the facts come out. We have seen that before.
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Well, we know he wasn't a leg man.
The internet is over. This man has won.
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Well, we know he wasn't a leg man.
A number of years ago had a trucker drop off a laptop that wasn't turning on . After getting it to power up I was confronted with his windows background of a legless naked woman. After getting over my initial shock I noticed folders on the desktop filled with thousands of photos of naked women missing limbs.
Wonder if they're any related?
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Just listened to two of my coworkers talking about the incident.
Jesus wept, what people don't know about guns... :facepalm:
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Someone I know a little on facebook posted this. He is from up North and I think did not know about it. He is a liberal, but didn't comment on it other than to ask why it happened. Pretty biased description. Makes it look like a drive by shooting. Passed on a link and basic description of events.
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/115931249_4911122895565316_6736513825639696408_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=gmS41zOqMXYAX9ml7QD&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=caff9dad9effe8f13b1b62fa50c01163&oe=5F46D3B6)
He was a traitor to his oath of enlistment. Eff him and eff anyone who tries to fete him.
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Are they trying to gaslight us here? Everything I read has been about a girlfriend or fiance. Now he's been posthumously promoted to Husband?
What uniform is that? Guard?
Air Force.
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I did a search on Garrett Foster.
https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/garrett-foster/
In the video, Foster says he has an AK-47.
“They don’t let us march in the streets anymore, so I’ve gotta practice some of our rights,” he says.
When asked if he is going to use it, he says no.
“Nah… If I use it against the cops, I’m dead. I think all the people that hate us and want to say s*** to us are too big of pussies to stop and actually do anything about it.”
So much for theory.
If they don't let you march in the streets any more, how is it that your group was blocking the street?
He says he started carrying after his roommate was arrested.
“Well, my roommate got arrested and they stopped letting us march anywhere, so I started carrying.”
??? Huh? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever ... but I don't suppose it matters now.
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We have too many guns
Austin’s Mayor: Saturday’s Shooting Shows We Have Too Many Guns in Austin
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/austins-mayor-we-have-too-many-guns-in-austin/
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We have too many guns
Austin’s Mayor: Saturday’s Shooting Shows We Have Too Many Guns in Austin
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/austins-mayor-we-have-too-many-guns-in-austin/
I saw that. Typical liberal knee-jerk reaction ... blame it on the gun(s), not the people who made stupid decisions.
I'm trying to figure out who I should feel a shred of sympathy for here ... if anyone. The young woman has lost her soulmate and caregiver. That's got to be tough on her. That said, if the dude was going to these demonstrations because she wanted to go, then to at least some extent she needs to live with the fact that she helped get her man killed. On the other hand, if he was the primary instigator behind their going out and protesting, then he's a candidate for a Darwin award, and he is responsible for leaving his significant other bereft of her caregiver.
At the moment, I'm leaning toward sympathy for the guy in the car. That may change as more facts come to light ... but I doubt it.
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But among the possibilities is that in this tragic case, under our gun and self-defense laws, we had two law-abiding citizens, availing themselves of their rights, who had the legal right to attempt to kill each other.
Wait, what?
Herman: Austin Shooting May Have Involved Two Law-Abiding People With the Legal Right to Attempt to Kill Each Other
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/herman-austin-shooting-may-have-involved-two-law-abiding-people-with-the-legal-right-to-attempt-to-kill-each-other/