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http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nebraska-patrol-accused-of-requiring-vaginal-exams-for-women/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=RSS_all

This is odd.  I asked one of my physicians about this: she is an Occupational Medicine specialist who does a lot of the pre/post employment exams for the local LE and fire agencies.  She could not think of a good reason or a valid occupational requirement to do a gross inspection of the vagina and rectum of a female applicant for a LE or fire job.  I would require a male physician to have a chaperone in the exam room during such exams.

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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2017, 08:17:50 PM »
So the State Patrol is accused of wrongdoing, and the Governor has ordered an investigation by ... the State Patrol?

That should be a short investigation.
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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 01:03:46 PM »
From reading the article, it's not clear to me that the State Patrol had direct knowledge or actually required the pelvic exams until the first complaint was filed in 2015, and it may be a matter more on the doctor and his practices than the Patrol.

The time frame in dealing with it once a formal complaint was filed is troubling, but could just as easily be chalked up to institutional inertia, than any actual malfeasance.

However, I am decidedly suspicious that someone along the line, this Rice guy heading up the Patrol, or the Doctor himself, quietly decided that they could use pelvic and rectal exams on female candidates as a filter, or sort of hazing, trying to weed out any candidates who objected, refused, or otherwise showed too much distress at that portion of the exam to continue. Perhaps in some sort of misguided belief that the ones who could handle it would be better officers.
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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 02:00:30 PM »
If troopers (equipped with female body parts) identify as male, do they still get an exam?
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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 03:33:51 PM »
Probably looking for some hermaphrodites or transsexuals or whatever they are. [tinfoil]
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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 03:46:14 PM »
If troopers (equipped with female body parts) identify as male, do they still get an exam?

If trooper candidates with male body parts identify as female, do they still get the exams?
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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 04:01:29 PM »
From the article:

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State Patrol spokesman Cody Thomas said no NSP recruits have undergone the pelvic exams since December 2016. Thomas did not comment on who was under investigation.

The part I highlighted seems to indicate it might be a "requirement" made up by one guy instead of the department.  The article also said that the requirement was for a male doctor.  If that is true and not just awkward phrasing, it would seem to reinforce the idea that the requirement was created by one guy.
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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 07:03:52 PM »
The part I highlighted seems to indicate it might be a "requirement" made up by one guy instead of the department.  The article also said that the requirement was for a male doctor.  If that is true and not just awkward phrasing, it would seem to reinforce the idea that the requirement was created by one guy.

Requiring a doctor that is specifically male, to do an inspection of rather intimate parts on female applicants, just screams issues with me.  Why can't the recruit request a female do it?

If it was that the state patrol had ONE doctor doing it all, who happened to be male, that's a bit different.

That they didn't examine the guys for the same things they were supposedly checking the females for sends all sorts of warning signals.

As for not having the state patrol do the investigation - who else would do it?  State patrol is the highest police force in the state.  Only other option would be the FBI or such.

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Re: Be a female Nebraska state trooper after your vaginal/rectal exam
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 11:01:07 PM »
As for not having the state patrol do the investigation - who else would do it?  State patrol is the highest police force in the state.  Only other option would be the FBI or such.

I have read of more than one case in which a state's state police force was under suspicion, and the investigation was carried out by a neighboring state's state police.
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