Post-election Palin - breaking free of McCain

[Desertdog]

Let's how this scenerio works.  IF, and only if, McCain loses,  Governor Palin goes back to being a Gov until 2010 at which time she runs for Congress or Senate.  Preferrably Senate if an AK Senator is up for election.  If she won that then in 2012 she runs for President. 
Business person, Governer, elected member in Washington.  She should have enough experience to qualify for President.

Post-election Palin - breaking free of McCain
Chad Groening -
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=306684

The head of an immigration reform organization says it's a foregone conclusion that John McCain will not be president of the United States, and therefore running mate Sarah Palin will soon be able to really speak her mind about issues like illegal immigration.

 

Mark Krikorian is executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies and author of The New Case Against Immigration: Both Legal and Illegal. He has already made a prediction about the outcome of the election. "I think McCain is not going to be president of the United States," he contends. "It's just the way it is."
 
According to Krikorian, once Sarah Palin is free from the McCain campaign, she will be able to speak freely about the immigration issue. "There's a real possibility, once Senator McCain is history, that she will likely take a much more hawkish position on immigration," he adds. "Now maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part -- it's possible, but I don't think so."
 
Krikorian believes the comments Palin made in a recent interview with the Spanish-language network Univision reflected McCain's views -- not hers -- on the need to create "a pathway to citizenship" for illegal immigrants.

[roo_ster]

She'd be a fool to run for the House or Senate.  Governor is a much better job in every way for people who want to do things rather than dither about them.

I assume she runs for and wins governor of AK.

[AZRedhawk44]

Krikorian believes the comments Palin made in a recent interview with the Spanish-language network Univision reflected McCain's views -- not hers -- on the need to create "a pathway to citizenship" for illegal immigrants.

No good.  Then it's a blatant flip-flop, vulnerable to attack.

If she accomodated McCain's angle, then she isn't as principled as I want.

[Wildalaska]

sarah is cool

WildishookherhandAlaska â„¢

[MechAg94]

Well, she didn't say it had to be an easy pathway.  :)

[AZRedhawk44]

Well, she didn't say it had to be an easy pathway.  :)

If it doesn't involve a return back home and then some sort of Buddhist reincarnation in the next life, I don't buy it.

Ya came here, ya committed ID fraud, ya didn't care about our laws.  No friggin' way.

[charby]

Probably go moose hunting so some other ruminant in Alaska.

[Northwoods]

She'd be a fool to run for the House or Senate.  Governor is a much better job in every way for people who want to do things rather than dither about them.

I assume she runs for and wins governor of AK.

You read my mind. 

She would run for a second term as governor of AK - and all but be guarenteed victory no matter what the Dem machine tries to do to her during that race.  Then in 2012 she'd run for the Rep nomination for POTUS.  Or maybe stick with the AK governorship for a third term and the run for POTUS in 2016.

[longeyes]

I love Palin but wonder if Jindal doesn't represent a more promising opportunity for the Republicans return to power.

[Northwoods]

I love Palin but wonder if Jindal doesn't represent a more promising opportunity for the Republicans return to power.

I wouldn't complain about a Palin/Jindal (or the other way around) ticket in '12.

[RocketMan]

I cold

I wouldn't complain about a Palin/Jindal (or the other way around) ticket in '12.

I could live with that.

[agricola]

You read my mind. 

She would run for a second term as governor of AK - and all but be guarenteed victory no matter what the Dem machine tries to do to her during that race.  Then in 2012 she'd run for the Rep nomination for POTUS.  Or maybe stick with the AK governorship for a third term and the run for POTUS in 2016.

Indeed.  If Obama wins probably the best person to stand in 2012 would be someone who was able to say "I told you so in '08".  Whether she does that from Alaska or takes a Senate seat (could she kick Stevens out if he wins and goes to prison?) you people would know better than I, though in the UK at least there is something wonderful in watching Opposition MPs in Parliament having the freedom to denigrate, abuse, scold and correct those people in power. 

[Leatherneck]

She's a people person. That's why we love her. Also she's hot. 

TC

[Hawkmoon]

According to Krikorian, once Sarah Palin is free from the McCain campaign, she will be able to speak freely about the immigration issue. "There's a real possibility, once Senator McCain is history, that she will likely take a much more hawkish position on immigration," he adds. "Now maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part -- it's possible, but I don't think so."
 
Krikorian believes the comments Palin made in a recent interview with the Spanish-language network Univision reflected McCain's views -- not hers -- on the need to create "a pathway to citizenship" for illegal immigrants.

And this, of course, is of vital importance if she loses because of all the illegal immigrants wading the straits between Siberia and Alaska to gain entry into the United States.

Yawn.

[Manedwolf]

She can't go anywhere until she gets rid of the mealy-mouthed Republican insiders who undermined her instead of supporting her.

[agricola]

She can't go anywhere until she gets rid of the mealy-mouthed Republican insiders who undermined her instead of supporting her.

There was an article in (IIRC) the Guardian a while back that pretty much flat-out said those were ex-Romney people in the McCain campaign who saw her as the likely rival in 2012, and were spinning accordingly.

The likes of Noonan have already burnt their bridges forever, I think.

[Northwoods]

Indeed.  If Obama wins probably the best person to stand in 2012 would be someone who was able to say "I told you so in '08".  Whether she does that from Alaska or takes a Senate seat (could she kick Stevens out if he wins and goes to prison?) you people would know better than I, though in the UK at least there is something wonderful in watching Opposition MPs in Parliament having the freedom to denigrate, abuse, scold and correct those people in power. 

She won't go to the Senate.  That would be giving up too much power and would expose her to accusations of being a) a Washington insider and b) job hopping.

Her best bet is to stick with the job of Governor for another 4 years, build an unimpeachable record of busting corruption and expanding energy supplies and free market policy (plus cutting govt waste).  Then run against Obama in '12 and likely beat his pants off.  4 years from now people will be screaming for a corruption buster, and cheaper energy.  And the Rep. base at least will be screaming for free market policies and reduced govt spending (even if that's just by cutting waste from existing programs rather than cutting the programs themselves).

[agricola]

She won't go to the Senate.  That would be giving up too much power and would expose her to accusations of being a) a Washington insider and b) job hopping.

Her best bet is to stick with the job of Governor for another 4 years, build an unimpeachable record of busting corruption and expanding energy supplies and free market policy (plus cutting govt waste).  Then run against Obama in '12 and likely beat his pants off.  4 years from now people will be screaming for a corruption buster, and cheaper energy.  And the Rep. base at least will be screaming for free market policies and reduced govt spending (even if that's just by cutting waste from existing programs rather than cutting the programs themselves).

Perhaps, though she would always be "that woman from Alaska" in that case.

[GigaBuist]

Why is everybody focusing on 4 years from now?  The Executive branch doesn't run the government, although the comments here tonight are reenforcing something I've felt for a while now: Monarchies lasted as long as they did because it's the easiest system of government for people to understand.

In two years we'll get a chance to replace every one of the 435 members of the House that a president needs to do just about anything of significance.  Focus on that.

[Northwoods]

Why is everybody focusing on 4 years from now? 

You're kidding, right?  Sure, the House and Senate are an equal branch to the executive, but we're talking about the presidential election here.  If this were mostly about the loss of seats in Congress (a legit topic in it's own right) you'd have a point.

[GigaBuist]

You're kidding, right?

Nope.  I have my serious face on.

Sure, the House and Senate are an equal branch to the executive, but we're talking about the presidential election here.

I suppose that depends on who you're talking to.  Some members are pretty convinced that the Republic is dead, we're going to lose internet access, a depression is on the way, ZOMG SOCIALISTS!11, etc.

Gridlock is good.  If we can find a way to get our local House seats back into the hands of Republicans then there isn't much the Senate or Obama can do, and we can do that in 2 years.  There's no reason to sit on our haunches and wait for the next presidential election.

[AZRedhawk44]

Gig is right.

Prepare now to re-seize the Republican party.  Prepare now to re-seize Congress.  Prepare now for a new Contract with America.

Maybe the new one will last.

[GigaBuist]

Prepare now for a new Contract with America.

Maybe the new one will last.

Bingo.

While I may not share in some of the more dramatic ZOMG DEATH OF REPUBLIC!!11! scenarios I certainly don't expect the Democrats to actually fix anything in the next two years.  There will be some "blowback" from this two years from today and if we do our part to put good solid Republicans on the ballot we just might be able to block Obama and his Senate from achieving whatever it is we're all afraid of.

Of course, I say that as somebody that has a House rep that wins 2:1 over a Democrat election after election.

[Northwoods]

Nope.  I have my serious face on.

I suppose that depends on who you're talking to.  Some members are pretty convinced that the Republic is dead, we're going to lose internet access, a depression is on the way, ZOMG SOCIALISTS!11, etc.

Dude, I was referencing this particular thread.

[Antibubba]

She's a people person. That's why we love her. Also she's hot. 

I'm apparently in the minority here, but I think she's a lightweight.  As much as I like her as a person, and as an ardent pro-gun supporter, I don't think she has what it takes to run this country.  Although I was blown away by her at the GOP convention, by the time I mailed in my ballot two weeks ago I was praying not merely for a Republican win but that McCain got his mother's longevity genes.  Four to eight years as Vice-President would be the on-the-job training she'd need, but being a two-term Governor of Alaska won't cut it.  And let us be completely frank--she was an ideological pick, a concession to the Religious Right, because McCain has opposed them in the past.  And if she were less extreme in her views, a lot more of Hillary's PUMAS would have voted Republican this year.

Jindal, OTOH, is very good possibility in four years.