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Need gunsmithing help
« on: March 20, 2010, 06:47:25 PM »
My new Taurus .327FedMagnum revolver is belling the cases on firing.  Serious enough belling so that I need to get a mallet and tap the extractor rod to get the cases out.  There is no carbon ring partially down the chamber, but fired cases reinserted do stick about 7/8th of the way in as if that was what was being encountered.

I am looking for answers to two questions:

1) What to do to either stop the casemouth belling or permit "normal" extraction?
2) How come it's doing that?

Guys at my local shop are suggesting I take a .38 mop with lots of cleaner on it, chuck it into a handheld drill, and spin slowly.  That would be good if I were shooting .32H&RMag or other, shorted .32 cartridges and getting powder rings, like you get when shooting .38spcl in a .357.  But I'm shooting the full-length .327 in a .327 cylinder so that's not the problem - or shouldn't be.

Besides sending it back to Taurus along with a bunch of fired brass to let them look at it, does anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 06:49:19 PM »
Unfortunately, they screwed up your cylinder. When reaming the chambers, it sounds like they oversized for clearance on the far end (toward the forcing cone) - basically, they were using out-of-spec tooling to chamber the cylinder. There is no home-brew fix for that, the metal cannot easily be added back on. You need to send it back to Taurus and have a new cylinder fitted and timed.
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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2010, 06:51:44 PM »
Unfortunately, they screwed up your cylinder. When reaming the chambers, it sounds like they oversized for clearance on the far end (toward the forcing cone) - basically, they were using out-of-spec tooling to chamber the cylinder. There is no home-brew fix for that, the metal cannot easily be added back on. You need to send it back to Taurus and have a new cylinder fitted and timed.

Ppsshh...  That's what JB Weld is for.  :P




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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2010, 06:54:16 PM »
That would actually work for quite a few rounds, surprisingly. Roughing up the chamber, JB Weld in there, re-chamber. It's just not pretty, nor is vaskidmark likely to have a rotary table, milling machine, precision drills, and a finishing reamer.  ;)
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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2010, 06:54:42 PM »
Ppsshh...  That's what JB Weld is for.  :P




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Or maybe wrap it in detcord?
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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2010, 07:02:48 PM »
That would actually work for quite a few rounds, surprisingly. Roughing up the chamber, JB Weld in there, re-chamber. It's just not pretty, nor is vaskidmark likely to have a rotary table, milling machine, precision drills, and a finishing reamer.  ;)

Eh, Mash an R size bit through it with with a cordless drill.

It doesn't have to be straight, that's what the barrel is for, right?

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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2010, 07:04:37 PM »
You could be any one of the many "gunsmiths" I know, with that attitude....  ;)


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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2010, 07:08:38 PM »
You could be any one of the many "gunsmiths" I know, with that attitude....  ;)


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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2010, 07:10:12 PM »
No, and they all charge nearly $30/hr - and have a lineup of customers!  ;/
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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2010, 07:19:16 PM »
OK, message to Taurus for a shipping label on its way.

One of these days I'm going to get something on .327 that actually works the first time out of the box.

Thanks for the info.

PS - since I'll be shipping it back to Taurus, does anybody want 20 pounds of JB Weld and about 1000 feet of det cord?

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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2010, 07:21:24 PM »
Well, the det cord always comes in handy. >:D

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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2010, 07:22:24 PM »
Delicious, delicious PETN.  =D
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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2010, 07:24:14 PM »
Send the det cord to Mabs for his lady cat problem.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2010, 07:26:02 PM »
No, and they all charge nearly $30/hr - and have a lineup of customers!  ;/
Do I dare to ask what they turn out? Sten-guns that look as if they've been put together by monkeys with advanced Parkinson's Disease?
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2010, 07:29:37 PM »
Do I dare to ask what they turn out? Sten-guns that look as if they've been put together by monkeys with advanced Parkinson's Disease?

What people expect is what they make. It's just out of spec, nasty if you're the next gunsmith to work on it.  =|
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2010, 07:37:38 PM »
Send the det cord to Mabs for his lady cat problem.
True, I only have to detcord a specific part of her to solve my problem.
If she still functions afterward then that's win-win.


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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2010, 07:40:20 PM »
mmm... detcord.

Wonder if that's classified as a "destructive device", transfer on form 4.  :laugh:

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Re: Need gunsmithing help
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2010, 07:44:29 PM »
mmm... detcord.

Wonder if that's classified as a "destructive device", transfer on form 4.  :laugh:

According to the orange book, no, it just needs an HE user permit, which is fairly cheap to get, just hard to find a storage spot complying with the law.  =)
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2010, 07:47:07 PM »
According to the orange book, no, it just needs an HE user permit, which is fairly cheap to get, just hard to find a storage spot complying with the law.  =)

Man, that'd be a heck of a thing to have on hand.  I'm surprised it's legal with any amount of permits.

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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2010, 07:49:37 PM »
It is, even ships UPS. Heck, MANY HEs are perfectly legal with the proper permit, along with detonators. Ask me how I know.  =D
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2010, 07:53:02 PM »
Its mere presence would suggest uses.

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2010, 08:12:54 PM »
It is, even ships UPS. Heck, MANY HEs are perfectly legal with the proper permit, along with detonators. Ask me how I know.  =D

Anyone else really glad that PTK is in Montana, which I think has about the lowest population density of any US State (with perhaps the exception of Alaska)?

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2010, 08:29:10 PM »
Anyone else really glad that PTK is in Montana, which I think has about the lowest population density of any US State (with perhaps the exception of Alaska)?

Anyone else also *REALLY REALLY JEALOUS*?



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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2010, 08:34:40 PM »
Or, as many people here say, "Montana: Poverty with a view". It's also probably the free-est state in which I've lived. Sometimes it seems like a different country.  =)
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2010, 08:36:24 PM »
Or, as many people here say, "Montana: Poverty with a view". It's also probably the free-est state in which I've lived. Sometimes it seems like a different country.  =)


Hence the "really really jealous" part.  :)
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