Author Topic: China quarantines an entire city (Read 23787 times)

MillCreek · « **Reply #100 on:** February 07, 2020, 10:17:35 AM »

As a whole, many people are unaware of the sweeping powers that Federal, State and local health authorities have in the context of controlling disease. I was watching a segment on NBC news the other night about the latest 747 load of Americans from China landing at a military base in California for a 14 day quarantine. The point was made that the people are not free to leave the confinement area specifically, nor the base in general, and armed personnel are on the perimeter to ensure this.

zahc · « **Reply #101 on:** February 07, 2020, 11:48:12 AM »

I talked with a colleague who is from the epicenter in Wuhan. He went there for new years and has been back for 5 weeks, so he dodged it apparently but he got out just before the lockdown. He said the virus itself is not much worse than flu but the death toll is coming from the lockdown itself because the people inside the lockdown aren't getting care. Anyone who got out with the virus is probably fine.

WLJ · « **Reply #102 on:** February 07, 2020, 11:57:00 AM »

He's dead Jim

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Chinese doctor #LiWenliang, one of the eight "whistleblowers" who tried to warn other medics of the coronavirus outbreak but were reprimanded by local police, died from #coronavirus at 2:58 am Friday, the hospital where he received treatment announced. https://t.co/eCrNha7Nn1 pic.twitter.com/WYwDxZFBej
— Global Times (@globaltimesnews) February 6, 2020

Chinese doctor who sounded alarm on coronavirus dies, reports say
https://www.wave3.com/2020/02/06/chinese-doctor-who-sounded-alarm-coronavirus-was-silenced-has-died/

brimic · « **Reply #103 on:** February 07, 2020, 06:33:31 PM »

People being dragged away to ‘quarantine camps.’
Start watching at approximately the 35:30minute mark.
You don’t see this sort of response with diseases that are only deadly as the flu unless they are using it as a reason to disappear people.

https://youtu.be/4YbIl1Q-DYw

Jim147 · « **Reply #104 on:** February 07, 2020, 09:34:27 PM »

Wow the Chinese must have a bunch of crap on the Clintons.

brimic · « **Reply #105 on:** February 08, 2020, 08:57:42 AM »

There is a very interesting graphic posted under this facefart post. Please take a moment and look. If it’s true, this is way worse than anyone here imagined.

https://www.facebook.com/132200683/posts/986891375933/?d=n

brimic · « **Reply #106 on:** February 08, 2020, 11:12:09 AM »

Ok, screw it. I’m calling it an official tinkywinky event- I hope I’m wrong.
Buckle up kids, we’re in for a bumpy ride.

https://twitter.com/mithricastle/status/1225925285759135744?s=21

Viking · « **Reply #107 on:** February 08, 2020, 05:33:38 PM »

Quote from: brimic on February 08, 2020, 11:12:09 AM

Ok, screw it. I’m calling it an official tinkywinky event- I hope I’m wrong.
Buckle up kids, we’re in for a bumpy ride.

https://twitter.com/mithricastle/status/1225925285759135744?s=21

https://i.redd.it/hogqn1wf2nf41.png

https://i.redd.it/88osl54prjf41.png

WLJ · « **Reply #108 on:** February 08, 2020, 05:53:36 PM »

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #109 on:** February 08, 2020, 06:00:59 PM »

Quote from: brimic on February 07, 2020, 06:33:31 PM

People being dragged away to ‘quarantine camps.’
Start watching at approximately the 35:30minute mark.
You don’t see this sort of response with diseases that are only deadly as the flu unless they are using it as a reason to disappear people.

https://youtu.be/4YbIl1Q-DYw

Clipped at the correct time mark
https://youtu.be/4YbIl1Q-DYw?t=2127

brimic · « **Reply #110 on:** February 08, 2020, 06:02:59 PM »

Quote from: Viking on February 08, 2020, 05:33:38 PM

https://i.redd.it/hogqn1wf2nf41.png

https://i.redd.it/88osl54prjf41.png

At least one bioweapons expert says this is a bioweapon meant for the US, that got out. OOPS.
If true, China is *expletive deleted*ed, and so are we if we don’t prevent it from reaching our shores.

https://youtu.be/cUNHz7IUDdc

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #111 on:** February 08, 2020, 07:07:11 PM »

Quote from: brimic on February 08, 2020, 08:57:42 AM

There is a very interesting graphic posted under this facefart post. Please take a moment and look. If it’s true, this is way worse than anyone here imagined.

https://www.facebook.com/132200683/posts/986891375933/?d=n

Since I don't have a Fecesbook account, I can't see the graphic.

brimic · « **Reply #112 on:** February 08, 2020, 07:30:34 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on February 08, 2020, 07:07:11 PM

Since I don't have a Fecesbook account, I can't see the graphic.

Unfortunately, I don’t have a good way to post photos to the forum.
Found another source: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594
Going by those numbers... maybe a 1% survival rate?
China is going to lose a few ten million people if their best quarantine efforts succeed, much worse if it doesn’t.

Interesting times we live in.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #113 on:** February 08, 2020, 07:43:31 PM »

I have zero trust in any "official" numbers coming out of China. And, only a tiny fraction of trust in any "official" numbers from even a US based source.
And while this may get really nasty it is well to remember that the majority of China is essentially 3rd world in respects to healthcare and the shear numbers of even a nasty flu epidemic would severely strain China's government health services.

brimic · « **Reply #114 on:** February 08, 2020, 11:05:39 PM »

https://youtu.be/ALQTdCYGISw

bedlamite · « **Reply #115 on:** February 08, 2020, 11:45:48 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on February 08, 2020, 07:43:31 PM

I have zero trust in any "official" numbers coming out of China. And, only a tiny fraction of trust in any "official" numbers from even a US based source.
And while this may get really nasty it is well to remember that the majority of China is essentially 3rd world in respects to healthcare and the shear numbers of even a nasty flu epidemic would severely strain China's government health services.

Even the WHO is quoting Chinese numbers as real, and has praised the Chinese .gov for their excellent response. Every official organization is lying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/chinese-officials-note-serious-problems-in-coronavirus-response-the-world-health-organization-keeps-praising-them/2020/02/08/b663dd7c-4834-11ea-91ab-ce439aa5c7c1_story.html

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #116 on:** February 08, 2020, 11:58:12 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

brimic · « **Reply #117 on:** February 09, 2020, 10:29:53 AM »

Coronavirus in the wild in Europe:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51425702

MillCreek · « **Reply #118 on:** February 09, 2020, 10:34:15 AM »

Track the map: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #119 on:** February 09, 2020, 10:48:57 AM »

Some thoughts on unpredictability with this virus
Most of the cases, mainland china, are in very, very densely populated cities. And in some cases, I imagine that they've made it worse by quarantining people together with sick patients. You take 200 people who are sick, but only a few actually have Corona. Now everyone has it, and 30% of them end up dead because they were already sick with weakened immune systems.
Does this virus end up rampaging through some developing and third world countries cities and causing a lot of deaths in the next few months?
How does that compare to less densely populated cities and countries, and western countries with better health care systems and healthier populations?
Has anyone died outside of those areas from it yet?

brimic · « **Reply #120 on:** February 09, 2020, 11:37:32 AM »

It makes feel a bit better that the US is taking it very seriously
https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1226362016086003712?s=21

WLJ · « **Reply #121 on:** February 09, 2020, 11:42:43 AM »

Quote from: brimic on February 09, 2020, 11:37:32 AM

It makes feel a bit better that the US is taking it very seriously
https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1226362016086003712?s=21

They always dress like that if they know Kim kardashian or Madonna are on the flight

WLJ · « **Reply #122 on:** February 09, 2020, 11:49:24 AM »

China good
Obama good
Orange Man bad

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When Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organization (WHO), declared the Wuhan coronavirus a public health emergency of international concern on Thursday, he praised China for taking “unprecedented” steps to control the deadly virus. “I have never seen for myself this kind of mobilization,” he noted. “China is actually setting a new standard for outbreak response.”

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For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is

Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/

Ben · « **Reply #123 on:** February 10, 2020, 07:53:13 AM »

While I'm still not ready to worry about this from the "dying of the RKL plague" perspective, something to consider: These lockdowns on Chinese movement may end up creating another effect we talk about around here - disruption of goods and services.

When you start looking at quarantining shipping into the US, you begin hitting "shortage of food and toilet paper" territory and possible cascade reactions with the accompanying panic of the unprepared. Depending on how this continues, if I didn't already have some long term food and necessities stockpiled, I'd be looking at doing that now.

K Frame · « **Reply #124 on:** February 10, 2020, 08:00:25 AM »

"These lockdowns on Chinese movement may end up creating another effect we talk about around here - disruption of goods and services."

Yeah, that's been a topic of discussion on various financial news and social media organizations for the better part of 2 weeks now.

It's dragged down the price of oil from $60 or so a a barrel to $50 a barrel.

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Author Topic: China quarantines an entire city (Read 23787 times)