Obama School Brainwash Session: September 8th, 2009

[AZRedhawk44]

Obama will be addressing the nation's school children on 9/8/09.

Syllabus for teachers is here:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama%E2%80%99s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009

Problematic phrases I've seen in the document:

Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?

I think it's more important that those political figures listen to US and our KIDS... not the other way around.

But, I'm just a bitter-clinger like that. :rolleyes:

As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:  What is the President trying to tell me? What is the President asking me to do? What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?
 
Students can record important parts of the speech where the President is asking them to do something. Students might think about: What specific job is he asking me to do?  Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?

Students could discuss their responses to the following questions: What do you think the President wants us to do? Does the speech make you want to do anything? Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us? What would you like to tell the President?

Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.  These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.

Being forced to come up with a list of crap that would be helpful to the president, whether the kids or parents agree with it or not, now becomes a grade-able goal.  Great.

Interview and share about their goals with one another to create a supportive community.

Those of you who are parents, please raise hell with your PTA or school board as appropriate.

This is blatant brainwashing.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

whats he speaking about?  and how is it threatening?

[taurusowner]

It doesn't matter.  Nobody, save members of the military, owe the President any allegiance or accountability whatsoever.  He works for us.  At least, that was how it used to work.  This program seems to be an attempt to teach tomorrows citizens that our public servants are actually people they should follow and look to for life guidance, as opposed to people to be directed by the citizenry.

If I were still a public school student, my goal would be to be true to my own beliefs and convictions, and to oppose any political entity who did or said anything contrary to those convictions.  I wonder how the teach would hold me accountable for that.  And a good question to write down is "Why does the President have the audacity to think he can ask me to do anything when he works for me?"

[AZRedhawk44]

No actual syllabus of HIS statement is available.  You don't get to filter it beforehand and decide whether or not to remove your kid from school that day based on the content of his speech.

But... the carefully crafted classroom response is disturbing in how, regardless of the content of the speech, the kids are being coached to follow/support the president regardless of content.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

if its ok with you i'll wait to see what he says. then i'll go off if its appropriate

[taurusowner]

if its ok with you i'll wait to see what he says. then i'll go off if its appropriate

Do you really think it's going to be something blatant right from the get go?  It's much more likely that this is just another step in the conditioning of America to think of politicians as people we should listen to and obey, as opposed to servants of the citizens employed to do our will.

C&SD, it doesn't matter what the President asks to the students to do.  The important thing is that we have a President who thinks it's his job to give us commands, instead of the other way around.  And he wants to teach tomorrow's citizens that that attitude is acceptable.

[charby]

He may talk about H1N1 and how to protect yourself or prevent spreading it?

Maybe he wants to get school kids interested in Civics, maybe he likes kids?

Wait until the press conference before you pass judgement.

[MicroBalrog]

C&SD, it doesn't matter what the President asks to the students to do.  The important thing is that we have a President who thinks it's his job to give us commands, instead of the other way around.  And he wants to teach tomorrow's citizens that that attitude is acceptable.

Ragnar is correct.

[taurusowner]

He may talk about H1N1 and how to protect yourself or prevent spreading it?

Maybe he wants to get school kids interested in Civics, maybe he likes kids?

Wait until the press conference before you pass judgement.

I don't care if the "request" is the best idea in the world.  It's not his place to make such "requests" in any way, and it never will be.  And I oppose him for thinking it is.  A benevolent dictator is still a dictator.

[AZRedhawk44]

Ragnar, I think you're missing the mark by just a hair.  You're close, but not quite there.

Who cares if we have a socialist pinko Mussolini wannabe in the whitehouse?  If we the people elected him to do our business, then that's our own damn fault and responsibility for it lies with us.

The president has no place giving instructions to the American population.  He's there to follow through on his campaign promises, and to listen to the American people for other issues.

LEAST OF ALL, the most impressionable of Americans.

Even if he came out in a 180 degree flip of his position and started telling kids that they must encourage their parents to own guns, that individual responsibility is the only way to go... he'd piss off the other folks on the other side of the aisle. 

This is conditioning of youth.  The agenda isn't so important as the vehicle of delivery.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

if its ok with you i'll wait to see what he says. then i'll go off if its appropriate

I'll bet you a nickel whatever Obama says will be inappropriate.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

how do you define inappropriate?
if he gives em a rah rah about how important school is?  how about some swine flu info?  is telling em to listen to their parents statist for anyone other than mb?

[Fjolnirsson]

Oh this is BS. I just finally caved to the wife. We signed the girl cub up last week. Looks like I am pulling her right back out, or maybe she misses the first day of school.

huh. The only thing I can find is that first bit. Anybody find any mainstream or other sources beyond this one? Or are we being played for fools?

[charby]

I remember in grade school when Ronald Reagan addressed school kids, we went to different homerooms to hear him speak.

I can't remember what he said, but it couldn't have been all that bad.

[Perd Hapley]

And did they make sure you did everything Reagan said, so you could help your dear leader president? 

[AZRedhawk44]

Hannity talked about it today, as did one of the local guys here in Phoenix, JD Heyworth.  I think it's legit.  Drudge linked it.

[MicroBalrog]

  is telling em to listen to their parents statist for anyone other than mb?

Yes, I am sure President Obama will go on the air telling children to obey their parents (which is, by the way, none of his business either way). And not, say, promoting his healthcare vision or whatnot.

[Fjolnirsson]

Yeah, I found the link on Drudge, but still, just that one link, with no supporting information...
I'm just not ready to buy it as legit. It certainly seems right on track with Obama's MO, but that document could have been typed by anyone.

[Fjolnirsson]

Ok, I was able to find more, through that first link. Looks legit.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627735/President-Addresses-American-Students-9-8-09

[AZRedhawk44]

Things he'll probably talk about in a dumbed-down way that sounds good to minds that can't yet parse doubletalk:

-Health care
-Census information and duty to respond regardless of question content
-Charity for the poor (aka take from the rich, how great Robin Hood is)
-Conservation, oil dependency, solar/wind power (aka your parents are foolish for owning a big car)
-Fairness of listening to both sides (aka mandatory exposure to alternate argument and mandatory sharing of alternate perspective, aka Fairness Doctrine)

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

sounds subversive to me!

did they post the link while you were making your predictions?

[Perd Hapley]

Subversive?  Why would there be anything subversive about teaching children that private citizens are to take orders from presidential speeches?  What would be subversive about teaching children that their purpose in life is to "help" the president? 

[red headed stranger]

It could be a a teachable moment for our children.  A good primer in how propaganda is created and disseminated. 

[longeyes]

What is America to the Left except one great "teachable moment?"   As others have well said, what we are witnessing is an attempt to fundamentally reverse the flow of legitimate power in this country and reduce citizens to subjects.

When you turn your nation's young minds over to government employees who more often that not are philosophically on the margin of America's traditional core values YOU END UP HERE.  We had better realize how serious this has gotten.  We need more than just sporadic town hall protests, we need a grass-roots tidal wave of protest, a powerful anti-statist movement akin to the civil rights' crusades of five decades ago.

And we need it NOW.

[FTA84]

So called "brainwashing" does often have negative and unattended affects for the brainwashers.

When I was in school, telling us kids about CFCs depleting the Ozone, we had to do projects relating to conserving CFCs, not using aerosol cans, not using the A/C (which was typical green-zealot misinformation, its not use but destruction of A/C which depletes the ozone).  We also had to do projects on recycling papers to help slow rain forest deforestation and exercises on water conservation. 

They used the fear thing too, 'If you don't stop using aerosol cans now, by 2001 you will need to wear a sun parka outside to avoid getting instantaneous cancer.'  'If you don't recycle paper, there won't be enough trees to make oxygen and we will all suffocate!'.


We watched mandatory videos, we sang mandatory songs, put on mandatory plays and did mandatory 'science' projects.

Consequently, it is 2010, and NONE of their dire predictions even came close to true.  Now when people in my age group ask me about global warming, I remind them of this education we had a children.  It does not disprove global warming, but it sure opens it up the fear mongering of "NEW YORK CITY WILL BE UNDER WATER IN 10 YEARS" to just criticism.