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Title: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Ben on April 09, 2023, 09:29:16 AM
With the caveat that the last Star Wars thing I watched was I think the movie with the chick as the new Skywalker, which I thought was subpar, so maybe I'm low information using youtube clips for my opinion:

However, man, if this is an indication of the writing and quality, what a crapfest Disney has created. Matt Walsh kinda hits the nail on the head with "like a furniture store commercial". This is terrible acting. The woman sounds like it's her first time in a Junior High play. This even makes Christopher Lloyd look like a bad actor, and I mean, come on, man! He played Reverend Jim.


https://youtu.be/OtRUiyDgh-Q
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 09, 2023, 10:09:57 AM
I don't even care about the misuse or underuse of star cameos.

The episode in question:

Bo-Katan Kreese is a Mandalorian noble and military commander.  She is piloting her privateer warship which she uses for freelance mercenary operations... and it is commandeered by the auto-landing system of a non-Imperial, non-Republic planet.

ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?!?  A Mandalorian warlord has a ship that can be hijacked electronically by a gorram meter maid landing protocol?  No tractor beam, no interdictor field... a remote landing protocol took over her ship against her wishes.  This is universe-breaking on par with Vice-Admiral Gender Studies' FTLjump through Snoke's battleship. 

And this plot point is just swept under the rug.

So our two heroes get into the hyperloop transport tubes at the LZ, and are hijacked again, against their will and taken to Jack Black and Lizzo.  Rather than just firing up their jetpacks and saying "eff this" and going where they intended to go, they do the stupid side quest.  The side quest?  An underdeveloped whodunnit crime episode, complete with slide-out morgue shelves, bar investigations and urban chase scenes.

Lizzo and Black act with the appeal of wax fruit on display in a furniture store.  Lloyd is apparently too old to be more visceral in his scene, and comes across more like Bryan Cranston than his usual type of role.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: WLJ on April 09, 2023, 10:33:20 AM
I don't even care about the misuse or underuse of star cameos.

The episode in question:

Bo-Katan Kreese is a Mandalorian noble and military commander.  She is piloting her privateer warship which she uses for freelance mercenary operations... and it is commandeered by the auto-landing system of a non-Imperial, non-Republic planet.

ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?!?  A Mandalorian warlord has a ship that can be hijacked electronically by a gorram meter maid landing protocol?  No tractor beam, no interdictor field... a remote landing protocol took over her ship against her wishes.  This is universe-breaking on par with Vice-Admiral Gender Studies' FTLjump through Snoke's battleship. 

And this plot point is just swept under the rug.

So our two heroes get into the hyperloop transport tubes at the LZ, and are hijacked again, against their will and taken to Jack Black and Lizzo.  Rather than just firing up their jetpacks and saying "eff this" and going where they intended to go, they do the stupid side quest.  The side quest?  An underdeveloped whodunnit crime episode, complete with slide-out morgue shelves, bar investigations and urban chase scenes.

Lizzo and Black act with the appeal of wax fruit on display in a furniture store.  Lloyd is apparently too old to be more visceral in his scene, and comes across more like Bryan Cranston than his usual type of role.

Yeah, been seeing Season 3 fell off a cliff face and in turn so have the ratings. One big complaint I've seen is that Din Djarin is not even the main focus anymore but rather Bo-Katan which follows Kennedy's and current Disney's pattern of replacing every male character with a woman.

(https://external-preview.redd.it/nTuzP6VtaK-5Z1jgFNM0aJ21eXwV6rC7-qGNmHKp6Bc.jpg?auto=webp&s=b53b7d5d499bb10d54739426bc6a557f61704ad6)
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: WLJ on April 09, 2023, 10:47:42 AM
Oh, and read they're bringing Rey back for more movies.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: HankB on April 09, 2023, 03:51:26 PM
Yeah, been seeing Season 3 fell off a cliff face and in turn so have the ratings. One big complaint I've seen is that Din Djarin is not even the main focus anymore but rather Bo-Katan which follows Kennedy's and current Disney's pattern of replacing every male character with a woman.

(https://external-preview.redd.it/nTuzP6VtaK-5Z1jgFNM0aJ21eXwV6rC7-qGNmHKp6Bc.jpg?auto=webp&s=b53b7d5d499bb10d54739426bc6a557f61704ad6)
I haven't watched the series in question, but I have to ask - are they replacing every male character with an actual woman, or someone who merely identifies as a woman?
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: WLJ on April 09, 2023, 04:00:11 PM
Sorry I mean main characters.
They're either replaced or trivialize
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: BobR on April 09, 2023, 04:01:43 PM
Hmmm, Stars Wars is still a thing..... who knew. ;)

bob
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Boomhauer on April 09, 2023, 04:33:14 PM
I don't even care about the misuse or underuse of star cameos.

The episode in question:

Bo-Katan Kreese is a Mandalorian noble and military commander.  She is piloting her privateer warship which she uses for freelance mercenary operations... and it is commandeered by the auto-landing system of a non-Imperial, non-Republic planet.

ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?!?  A Mandalorian warlord has a ship that can be hijacked electronically by a gorram meter maid landing protocol?  No tractor beam, no interdictor field... a remote landing protocol took over her ship against her wishes.  This is universe-breaking on par with Vice-Admiral Gender Studies' FTLjump through Snoke's battleship. 

And this plot point is just swept under the rug.

So our two heroes get into the hyperloop transport tubes at the LZ, and are hijacked again, against their will and taken to Jack Black and Lizzo.  Rather than just firing up their jetpacks and saying "eff this" and going where they intended to go, they do the stupid side quest.  The side quest?  An underdeveloped whodunnit crime episode, complete with slide-out morgue shelves, bar investigations and urban chase scenes.

Lizzo and Black act with the appeal of wax fruit on display in a furniture store.  Lloyd is apparently too old to be more visceral in his scene, and comes across more like Bryan Cranston than his usual type of role.

Lizzo is a *expletive deleted*ing cancer of humanity.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: bedlamite on April 09, 2023, 05:17:51 PM
Drinkers take on Return of Rey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGdiXChH02o
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: WLJ on April 09, 2023, 05:37:53 PM
Waiting on the announcement of Dylan Mulvaney being the next Star Wars hero and Disney Princess
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: BobR on April 09, 2023, 05:39:23 PM
Waiting on the announcement of Dylan Mulvaney being the next Star Wars hero

I thought he was holding out to be the Xena, Warrior Princess!


bob
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Devonai on April 09, 2023, 08:27:43 PM
This is disappointing. I just finished Season 2 a couple of days ago. Maybe it's time to dive into Picard.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: dogmush on April 09, 2023, 08:46:35 PM
Meh. Matt Walsh is trolling for outrage clicks. That's what pays his bills.

Guns for hire was not the best episode of Season 3, sure.  It's kind of a filler episode (which every season of the Mandolorian has. Hell season 2 had a filler spin off series) it's still a decent show over all.

Yes, the return to Mandolore arc is bringing Bo Katan to the front, because she's the heir apparent to lead Mandolore, and they are trying this time period into the Thrawn trilogy. She's not taking over the show though,  IMO.

It's also been pretty satisfying seeing Grogu start his training and get a little more personality.  That was the real shame of Lizzo's cameo, is they reduced him back down to a puppet.

Is Star Wars the best writing on TV? No. Did Disney *expletive deleted*ck up the sequel trilogy? Yes.  But overall the Mandolorian is still an enjoyable space-western serial.

If you enjoyed Seasons 1, 2, and 2.5, then don't let the doomscrollers turn you off of three. It's much of the same. There are definitely ups and downs in the episode quality,  but the are all decent enough to eat some popcorn and watch.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: bedlamite on April 09, 2023, 08:57:56 PM
Just as an aside, this is sumdood(s) dressed up as Obi Wan, Qui Gon, and Anikin commenting on Star Wars.


https://www.youtube.com/@NotObi-WanKenobi
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Ben on April 09, 2023, 09:05:09 PM
This is disappointing. I just finished Season 2 a couple of days ago. Maybe it's time to dive into Picard.

I'm starting season 3 in two weeks when it wraps up and I can binge it on a trail subscription, since there's nothing else on paramount that I'm interested in. I've only seen the youtube clips, but it's looking really good.

Season 1 was okay I guess. I'm just now watching season 2, and it is at least as bad as all the clips that people edit on youtube to show it sucks. Just a woke piece of crap with boring thrown in for good measure. I'm thinking that a guy could just skip season 2 all together and not miss much.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Nick1911 on April 09, 2023, 10:23:32 PM
The last thing starwars I watched was Episode III – Revenge of the Sith back in like 2005.  So I'm more than a little dated on it.  I'm vaguely aware that Disney ended up with it in the quest to make more money.

Recently, I was at a friends house, and his collage age daughter and her boyfriend were watching the apparently newest episode of Star Wars - Rebels.  I watched it for a few minutes.

I was taken aback at how awful the animation was.  It looked like a cut scene from 15 year old video game, with features influenced by anime.  I really thought it was an ameutuer fanflic until they told me it was an official disney series.

Maybe young people like that?  It doesn't nothing for me.  Guess I'll check back in 20 or years from now.  :P

(https://imgur.com/xT4nlA3.png)
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: dogmush on April 10, 2023, 05:00:05 AM
Rebels has been off the air since 2018, but yes it had a definite art style.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: MechAg94 on April 10, 2023, 09:24:49 AM
I'm starting season 3 in two weeks when it wraps up and I can binge it on a trail subscription, since there's nothing else on paramount that I'm interested in. I've only seen the youtube clips, but it's looking really good.

Season 1 was okay I guess. I'm just now watching season 2, and it is at least as bad as all the clips that people edit on youtube to show it sucks. Just a woke piece of crap with boring thrown in for good measure. I'm thinking that a guy could just skip season 2 all together and not miss much.
I have heard Picard season 3 is actually pretty good.  Hearing seasons 1 and 2 suck and you might as well skip them, but season 3 is worth watching.  Rumor is the ratings were low so the previous producers left to do other stuff and someone who likes Star Trek made season 3. 
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: WLJ on April 10, 2023, 09:27:57 AM
and someone who likes Star Trek made season 3.

Amazing the difference that makes
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Ben on April 10, 2023, 09:37:19 AM
the previous producers left to do other stuff and someone who likes Star Trek made season 3.

That team were avowed far leftists who made it a point to say that it was their duty to inject their politics into Picard, especially in season 2. It certainly showed.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: MechAg94 on April 10, 2023, 12:12:12 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Matalas
Terry Matalas is who I heard is responsible for Picard season 3.  He was a writer on Star Trek: Enterprise at one point.

The people I follow think this is sort of a last hurrah for Star Trek and perhaps the Next Gen characters.  They see it as a dying or dead franchise.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Ben on April 10, 2023, 12:45:26 PM
The people I follow think this is sort of a last hurrah for Star Trek and perhaps the Next Gen characters.  They see it as a dying or dead franchise.

If their plan is to continue with Discovery-like crap, then those people are right.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: WLJ on April 10, 2023, 12:48:27 PM
I lost interest with the 2009 movie.

The fact that the new Enterprise was ugly as sin didn't help.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Ben on April 10, 2023, 12:55:03 PM
I lost interest with the 2009 movie.

The fact that the new Enterprise was ugly as sin didn't help.

Also all the "alternate timeline" crap. Just weak.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: MechAg94 on April 10, 2023, 02:35:44 PM
Also all the "alternate timeline" crap. Just weak.
Those movies adopted that "fast pace action movie" type where there is always something happening and the audience isn't given time to think about the plot and such.  Worked fine with Transformers IMO since it was just giant robots fighting.  It got old with those Star Trek movies since Star Trek was never really an action movie franchise.  It then fell flat on its face with the Disney sequel star wars movies. 

Those movies also included characters who never shut up the entire movie.  There was always dialogue going on no matter what.  I always hated that.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: Devonai on April 10, 2023, 04:23:09 PM
The 2009 Star Trek is particularly jarring compared to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. It's like J.J. Abrams watched the latter and said, "This is garbage, I'm going to make my own Star Trek, with blackjack and hookers. You know what, forget the Star Trek!"
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: T.O.M. on April 10, 2023, 09:06:56 PM
In 1977, Star Wars came out and many critics blasted the movie.  At 9 years old, sitting in Dad's Pontiac LeMans at the drive in, I was in awe, and became a Star Wars fan.  Not a costume wearing/go to convention kind of fan, but I still have the toys I worked extra chores to buy back in the 70s and 80s.

I enjoy Mandalorian.  Book of Boba Fett was okay.  Obi Wan was pretty good.  Haven't watched much of the animated stuff.  It ain't great drama, but it's a hell of a lot better than a lot of the crap that gets put out on TV.
Title: Re: On Current Star Wars
Post by: K Frame on January 17, 2024, 07:34:51 PM
Resurrecting this.

Finished The Mandalorian this evening. Yeah, the last couple of episodes were a bit of a let down, but I still enjoyed it.

So, I started the Book of Boba Fett. I'm really liking it so far.