Post by: wmenorr67 on September 23, 2008, 10:44:39 PM
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VERMONT -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.
"PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.
PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.
"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."
In a statement Ben and Jerry's said, "We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child."
Read PETA's letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield
September 23, 2008
Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, Cofounders
Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.
Dear Mr. Cohen and Mr. Greenfield,
On behalf of PETA and our more than 2 million members and supporters, I'd like to bring your attention to an innovative new idea from Switzerland that would bring a unique twist to Ben and Jerry's.
Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers-and cows-would reap the benefits.
Using cow's milk for your ice cream is a hazard to your customer's health. Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it may play a role in anemia, allergies, and juvenile diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease-America's number one cause of death.
Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.
And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to 17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.
The breast is best! Won't you give cows and their babies a break and our health a boost by switching from cow's milk to breast milk in Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Tracy Reiman
Executive Vice President
"PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.
PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.
"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."
In a statement Ben and Jerry's said, "We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child."
Read PETA's letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield
September 23, 2008
Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, Cofounders
Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.
Dear Mr. Cohen and Mr. Greenfield,
On behalf of PETA and our more than 2 million members and supporters, I'd like to bring your attention to an innovative new idea from Switzerland that would bring a unique twist to Ben and Jerry's.
Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers-and cows-would reap the benefits.
Using cow's milk for your ice cream is a hazard to your customer's health. Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it may play a role in anemia, allergies, and juvenile diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease-America's number one cause of death.
Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.
And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to 17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.
The breast is best! Won't you give cows and their babies a break and our health a boost by switching from cow's milk to breast milk in Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Tracy Reiman
Executive Vice President
So what happens to children of the moms being used as human cows?
Post by: The Annoyed Man on September 24, 2008, 01:50:41 AM
Post by: BridgeRunner on September 24, 2008, 01:54:59 AM
Post by: 280plus on September 24, 2008, 02:08:40 AM
Post by: HankB on September 24, 2008, 03:31:14 AM
Just when you think an organization cannot become any more insane.
Some of those on the Left have long ago left the sanity reservation . . . seriously. Political disagreement is one thing, and vigorous debate can be a healthy thing . . . but this sort of extremist advocacy looks like a manifestation of mental illness.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on September 24, 2008, 03:32:46 AM
Post by: The Annoyed Man on September 24, 2008, 03:49:55 AM
Post by: Boomhauer on September 24, 2008, 04:01:32 AM
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Heather Mills' latest bizarre rant: 'Why don't we drink milk from rats and dogs?'
Last updated at 08:53am on 20.11.07
Making a point: Heather Mills at the poster launch
During another typically bizarre day for Heather Mills, the former model yesterday urged people to try drinking milk from rats and dogs to help save the planet.
Media-shy Heather started off by storming out of a radio interview with London's LBC station.
She then drove a gas-guzzling Mercedes 4x4 to Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park to speak about ecological matters - and kept the engine running for part of the morning.
Once there she proceeded to launch into an extraordinary ecological rant and exhorted the assembled crowds to try drinking rat's milk instead of cow's milk in a bid to save the planet from deforestation for livestock.
She said that livestock created far more carbon emissions than transport, so we should go vegan - someone who eats no meat or dairy produce - or at least find something else to put in tea or coffee.
At Speakers Corner in Hyde Park she said: "There are many other kinds of milk available. Why don't we try drinking rats' milk and dogs' milk?"
Vegan Mills was supposed to be launching a poster campaign for an animal welfare charity.
Last updated at 08:53am on 20.11.07
Making a point: Heather Mills at the poster launch
During another typically bizarre day for Heather Mills, the former model yesterday urged people to try drinking milk from rats and dogs to help save the planet.
Media-shy Heather started off by storming out of a radio interview with London's LBC station.
She then drove a gas-guzzling Mercedes 4x4 to Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park to speak about ecological matters - and kept the engine running for part of the morning.
Once there she proceeded to launch into an extraordinary ecological rant and exhorted the assembled crowds to try drinking rat's milk instead of cow's milk in a bid to save the planet from deforestation for livestock.
She said that livestock created far more carbon emissions than transport, so we should go vegan - someone who eats no meat or dairy produce - or at least find something else to put in tea or coffee.
At Speakers Corner in Hyde Park she said: "There are many other kinds of milk available. Why don't we try drinking rats' milk and dogs' milk?"
Vegan Mills was supposed to be launching a poster campaign for an animal welfare charity.
Post by: 280plus on September 24, 2008, 04:24:20 AM
I actually had a lawyer in court the other day talking about the constitutional rights of a cat. She's a real flower child, and actually cried in court when I ruled against her.
I remember brother # two's divorce day. I went to court with him. They contested custody of the dog. 
Now that I think about it. Brother #5 just split up with his non wife significant other and they too are battling over the dog. No courts involved this time though.
Post by: MrRezister on September 24, 2008, 04:31:24 AM
Think of the new flavors that would be possible. "Mother's Milk" for starters.
Tit for tat?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 24, 2008, 04:34:00 AM
ConAgra has a thermal depolymerization system that they feed all the turkey offal into and produce fuel oil. They'll fit.
Post by: Ben on September 24, 2008, 05:12:09 AM
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 24, 2008, 05:13:17 AM
Just to be absolutely, positively clear in my understanding -- this is NOT from The Onion???
You would be correct.
Post by: 41magsnub on September 24, 2008, 05:23:04 AM
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Post by: wmenorr67 on September 24, 2008, 05:39:23 AM
Post by: Tallpine on September 24, 2008, 06:07:27 AM
Post by: Scout26 on September 24, 2008, 06:23:50 AM
I actually had a lawyer in court the other day talking about the constitutional rights of a cat. She's a real flower child, and actually cried in court when I ruled against her.
Any judge that makes a moon-bat lawyer cry in open court deserves to be on the Supreme Court !!
Post by: Firethorn on September 24, 2008, 08:08:02 AM
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I'm hearing some folks would prefer it from the original packaging.
I've heard that as well.
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Could be fun trying to freeze the milk in the original container.
Phillistine. You don't freeze organic milk.
This made me think - what's the difference between a herbivore's milk, like from a cow, and a omnivore's milk, like from a human or bear? Or a carnivore's?
For that matter, I understand there are differences depending on diet, and that goat milk is slightly different.
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 24, 2008, 08:20:41 AM
I actually had a lawyer in court the other day talking about the constitutional rights of a cat. She's a real flower child, and actually cried in court when I ruled against her.
Now I would pay to see that.
Post by: Firethorn on September 24, 2008, 09:16:58 AM
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Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers-and cows-would reap the benefits.
You know, being the scientific type, I just had to look up the differences between cow's and human milk.
Result: It's good if they're on a low sodium diet, as human milk has 1/3 the sodium of cow milk. To be fair, it's got about 1/3rd the minerals period. Won't help women needing calcium - that's around 1/4 that of bovine. On the other hand, better hope they aren't lactose intolerant, as human milk has double the lactose.
The protein mix is substantially different, having substantially fewer caseins and essentially no B-Lactoglobulin, but more Lactalbumin, Lactoferrin, and Secretory IgA. No, I don't know what those are.
Now you Know!
Sheesh... This is almost as bad as the topic in an old newsgroup that somehow divered to female urinals...
Post by: Balog on September 24, 2008, 10:19:27 AM
I actually had a lawyer in court the other day talking about the constitutional rights of a cat. She's a real flower child, and actually cried in court when I ruled against her.
You are now my hero.
Post by: The Annoyed Man on September 24, 2008, 10:33:52 AM
I actually had a lawyer in court the other day talking about the constitutional rights of a cat. She's a real flower child, and actually cried in court when I ruled against her.
Any judge that makes a moon-bat lawyer cry in open court deserves to be on the Supreme Court !!
Like shooting fish in a barrel. Just say what you think, make it from a politically conservative point of view, and watch the tears fall.Post by: BridgeRunner on September 24, 2008, 11:34:29 AM
This made me think - what's the difference between a herbivore's milk, like from a cow, and a omnivore's milk, like from a human or bear? Or a carnivore's?
For that matter, I understand there are differences depending on diet, and that goat milk is slightly different.
For that matter, I understand there are differences depending on diet, and that goat milk is slightly different.
Well, because of varied diet, both between women and between different days/weeks/seasons, human milk is incredibly variable. I donated my milk for ten months to babies in need (not for ice cream, just for straight consumption by kiddos with digestive problems) and so I handled lots of milk during that time. It changes in color, smell, consistency.
It also changes based on the age and needs of the kiddo the woman is nursing, needs that are communicated through the kiddo's saliva. That obviously doesn't work when nursing isn't happening.
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
Post by: MrRezister on September 24, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
Sure, when you do it manually. But what about in a huge factory, where the machines do all the work for you? Wouldn't that be great?
Sure it would.
Post by: 41magsnub on September 24, 2008, 11:51:54 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
Sure, when you do it manually. But what about in a huge factory, where the machines do all the work for you? Wouldn't that be great?
Sure it would.
I'm sure somebody somewhere has a fetish related to just such a scenario....
Post by: K Frame on September 24, 2008, 11:54:18 AM
I'm hearing some folks would prefer it from the original packaging.
Adds a whole new dimension to the concept of going to the store for a couple of jugs of milk...
Post by: mtnbkr on September 24, 2008, 11:59:35 AM
Chris
Post by: Fly320s on September 24, 2008, 12:07:48 PM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
You're doing it wrong.
Post by: Balog on September 24, 2008, 12:27:05 PM
Post by: Iain on September 24, 2008, 12:47:56 PM
Fly320's has officially won the internet. Best. Post. Ever.
Seconded
Post by: Fly320s on September 24, 2008, 05:32:16 PM
Fly320's has officially won the internet. Best. Post. Ever.
Thanks. Where should I keep it?
Post by: BridgeRunner on September 24, 2008, 05:45:36 PM
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 24, 2008, 06:03:15 PM
Dude, you cost me a couple points in class tonight. No funnies when I'm sneaking a peek at APS in class.
Tell them what you were looking at to make you laugh.
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 25, 2008, 02:56:39 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
If it is making your ass hurt, you're probably doing it wrong!
PS:
The number one reason PETA is wrong, and psycotic in this issue? AIDS
Number two, volume of breast milk. How in the hell do you get that much breast milk? I've seen first hand how much one milking from a cow and one from a woman produces....
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 25, 2008, 02:57:14 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
You're doing it wrong.*expletive deleted*it. You beat me to it.
Post by: LadySmith on September 25, 2008, 02:59:38 AM
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 25, 2008, 03:04:29 AM
I recently read about how human males can lactate as well. Hmmm...I wonder what flavor that would be.
Ew. Ew Ew ew
Post by: LadySmith on September 25, 2008, 03:10:43 AM
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 25, 2008, 03:20:48 AM
I recently read about how human males can lactate as well. Hmmm...I wonder what flavor that would be.
Ew. Ew Ew ew
No that would be female sheep.
Post by: Fly320s on September 25, 2008, 04:12:33 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
You're doing it wrong.*expletive deleted*it. You beat me to it.
You gotta be fast 'round here. Lots of smart-aleks, you know.
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 25, 2008, 04:13:56 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
You're doing it wrong.*expletive deleted*it. You beat me to it.
You gotta be fast 'round here. Lots of smart-aleks, you know.
Not us.
Post by: Balog on September 25, 2008, 05:37:34 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
You're doing it wrong.*expletive deleted*it. You beat me to it.
JJ's taking a scenic tour of the Harbour of Shame aboard the SS Failboat.
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 25, 2008, 08:40:48 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
Oh crud. Skipped a whole page of posts. I'll go get on the failboat now.
Post by: Balog on September 25, 2008, 08:49:11 AM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
Oh crud. Skipped a whole page of posts. I'll go get on the failboat now.
You're the honorary cabin boy on that ship fisty.
Motto: set sail for fail!
Post by: slugcatcher on September 25, 2008, 09:32:16 AM
Think of the new flavors that would be possible. "Mother's Milk" for starters.
Mammary Madness
Boobie Bash
Nipplicious
If served with whipped cream on top ----- Second Honeymoon.
I'm done. I promise.
Post by: Racehorse on September 25, 2008, 12:49:32 PM
I recently read about how human males can lactate as well. Hmmm...I wonder what flavor that would be.
I'm going to go with...vomit. That would definitely be the only thing I would taste.
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 25, 2008, 01:20:18 PM
Also, pumping for milk? Humongous pain in the ass.
Oh crud. Skipped a whole page of posts. I'll go get on the failboat now.
You're in great company.....me!
Luckily for you I know which is port and which is starboard....
Post by: lupinus on September 25, 2008, 01:35:25 PM
Think of the new flavors that would be possible. "Mother's Milk" for starters.
Mammary Madness
Boobie Bash
Nipplicious
If served with whipped cream on top ----- Second Honeymoon.
I'm done. I promise.
Maybe we should make a separate thread game for the name suggestions and then send it off to Ben and Jerry's
Post by: stevelyn on September 25, 2008, 02:23:45 PM
Post by: Boomhauer on September 25, 2008, 02:29:24 PM
Well..............I guess maybe it would depend on who it came from. Putting the donor's picture on the carton couldn't hurt either.
Right. Couldn't hurt...
Post by: lupinus on September 25, 2008, 02:31:04 PM
thats just....
just...
I'm going to go weep for awhile
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 25, 2008, 04:40:49 PM
I'm outta here.
You people are completely messed up.
Post by: TexasRifleman on September 25, 2008, 06:08:58 PM
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Any volunteers to work in the new dairy?
Reminds me of the scene in Meet the Parents...
Greg Focker: You can milk anything with nipples
The Dad (DeNiro): I have nipples Greg, can you milk me?
Post by: Regolith on September 25, 2008, 06:47:32 PM
Well..............I guess maybe it would depend on who it came from. Putting the donor's picture on the carton couldn't hurt either.
Right. Couldn't hurt...
