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I. Just. Don't. _______. Care.
« on: November 04, 2008, 11:11:15 PM »
Am I the only one who doesn't give two s___s about having the "First African-American President?"  All these pundits from right to left dribble out these mealy-mouthed words of how wonderful it is.

I. Just. Don't. Effing. Care.

But, I guess I am hopelessly old-school, thinking that issues, character, experience, and the like ought to be the criteria.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008, 11:12:54 PM »
I was noticing just how jubilant the network talking heads are over the whole thing.  Fair and impartial huh?  (yes, I know that train left the station a loooong time ago).

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 11:13:20 PM »
The only good that will come of this, is that I don't have to drive to Chicago tommorow to bring the Sis in law home due to rioting....

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 11:14:41 PM »
The only good that will come of this, is that I don't have to drive to Chicago tommorow to bring the Sis in law home due to rioting....

I wouldn't count on that, if I were you.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 11:23:56 PM »
The only good that will come of this, is that I don't have to drive to Chicago tommorow to bring the Sis in law home due to rioting....

Don't count on it. The "youts" riot when their team wins too, remember?

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 11:24:04 PM »
Considering that segregation was in force in some parts of the country not even 50 years ago, this is a historic day. It makes me a little proud, even if I disagree with the man himself.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 11:41:19 PM »
The only good that will come of this, is that I don't have to drive to Chicago tommorow to bring the Sis in law home due to rioting....

Do it anyways. Better to regret wasting your time than to regret not doing it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2008, 11:47:06 PM »
Considering that segregation was in force in some parts of the country not even 50 years ago, this is a historic day. It makes me a little proud, even if I disagree with the man himself.

And it does have an effect all its own: his skill in managing the campaign to this point will discredit all those who claim that politics must be infused with race.  This win helps to put to death the notion that any successful black politician will always be a "black politician" in the sense of the Jacksons; Obama has proved that now you are able to lead an entire party (and a country) like anyone else, regardless of skin color.

That's a good thing.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2008, 11:48:34 PM »
Considering that segregation was in force in some parts of the country not even 50 years ago, this is a historic day. It makes me a little proud, even if I disagree with the man himself.

How can you be proud of the blight on people's ability to judge by the content of character?

How can you be proud of the MSM failing to present an ounce of background on this man's policy record or voting history?

How can you be proud of this man's weasel-like manner to avoid presenting his birth certificate?
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2008, 11:57:25 PM »
How can you be proud of the blight on people's ability to judge by the content of character?

How can you be proud of the MSM failing to present an ounce of background on this man's policy record or voting history?

How can you be proud of this man's weasel-like manner to avoid presenting his birth certificate?

What he said, and then some...

Is it anything be proud of that we elected a HORRIBLE President, even if he is black?

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 12:05:25 AM »
And it does have an effect all its own: his skill in managing the campaign to this point will discredit all those who claim that politics must be infused with race. 

Where have you been the past year?

BHO played the race card early & often.  And his surrogates & supporters played it constantly.

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 12:07:03 AM »
Considering that segregation was in force in some parts of the country not even 50 years ago, this is a historic day. It makes me a little proud, even if I disagree with the man himself.

Just a reminder that 50% of the population is of below median IQ.  And many of them vote.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 12:09:21 AM »
Where have you been the past year?

BHO played the race card early & often.  And his surrogates & supporters played it constantly.



Well, he was accused of playing it (I think he struggled to avoid it because it is a loser of an issue) by some conservative commentators.

But whether you think he did or did not, there is no question that he didn't play Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton politics.  This campaign was of a totally different character.  That's why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are basically local politicians, and Obama is the President.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 12:19:08 AM »
I've never been less proud of my nation as I am now.  If enlisted men could resign, I would do so.  I will never follow that man.  Never.

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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 12:21:44 AM »
Interesting to see Jackson there with crocodile tears. Does he have an onion in his pocket his used?

I thought he "wanted to rip his ____ off?"

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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2008, 12:22:06 AM »
America has spoken.  Not my choice, but that is America.  My state went with McCain.  That is about all I can do.
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2008, 12:32:11 AM »
I don't give a whit about his color.  I find his socialist/marxist beliefs offensive.  He managed to hoodwink enough folks who have seen the country lose its way in the past 4 - 6 years.  Dig in, all politics is local.  The game starts over tomorrow.  Work to get the folks that you agree with elected locally, and then move up and out.

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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2008, 12:43:28 AM »
Well, he was accused of playing it (I think he struggled to avoid it because it is a loser of an issue) by some conservative commentators.

But whether you think he did or did not, there is no question that he didn't play Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton politics.  This campaign was of a totally different character.  That's why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are basically local politicians, and Obama is the President.

He used it against the Clintons before he used it against any Republican.  His campaign issued many missives claiming racism when McCain would criticize some aspect of BHO.

He may not have gone all "hymietown," or instigated a riot that got innocent people killed, but he played the race card enough to fray it at the edges.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2008, 12:51:46 AM »


Well, he was accused of playing it (I think he struggled to avoid it because it is a loser of an issue) by some conservative commentators.  But whether you think he did or did not, there is no question that he didn't play Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton politics. 

He said that Republicans would try to scare voters by saying he didn't look like past presidents and had "a funny name."  So, yes, there is no question that he DID play the race card. 

Regardless of how often Obama mentioned race personally, it will be hard to judge how much his success depended on racial politics. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2008, 12:56:23 AM »
He said that Republicans would try to scare voters by saying he didn't look like past presidents and had "a funny name."  So, yes, he most certainly DID play the race card. 

Regardless of how often Obama mentioned race personally, it will be hard to judge how much his success depended on racial politics. 

I suppose then the articles which preceded Obama's comment on "scare tactics" which claimed Obama was a Muslim and featured a snapshot of him wearing some African pajamas, and all the other rumor mill about Obama's religion, were also part of playing the race card?

If commentary on Obama's name and "funny look" are racist politics, it would seem that the right beat Obama to the punch by a wide margin.
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2008, 01:14:26 AM »
Um, Muslim isn't a race.  Obama doesn't "look like a Muslim" (which is to say, he doesn't resemble the Arab stereotype).  And his own campaign admitted that it was a racial remark.  http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/Story?id=5495348&page=1 

But nice try to change your argument when caught with your pants down.  No one's saying there weren't accusations made about Obama's race or religion.  The question is whether Obama tried to falsely make himself the victim of racism, to his advantage, and he clearly did.  Your response does nothing to refute that, it only tries to move the goal post.

I'd like to know where you saw this talk of his alleged Islamic faith, in the context of his remarks.  From the video that I'm able to find, he was claiming that his opponents' only possible mode of attack would be to assail him for his race, name, lack of patriotism, etc.  He was dishonestly claiming that his opponents would make race the central thrust of their arguments.  So, yes, he was undoubtedly playing the race card in at least those instances


Obama's election will no doubt be very meaningful to those (mainly Blacks) who still thought race was a major hurdle to success in national politics.  On the other hand, Obama's divisive politics and hateful mockery of basic American principles will be corrosive to many white Americans' feelings toward other Blacks. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2008, 01:26:45 AM »
Obama's election will no doubt be very meaningful to those (mainly Blacks) who still thought race was a major hurdle to success in national politics.  On the other hand, Obama's divisive politics and hateful mockery of basic American principles will be corrosive to many white Americans' feelings toward other Blacks. 

The fact that a black man has become president means that race-preferential affirmative action is no longer needed and can be immediately stopped, right?

Ha ha ha.

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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2008, 01:33:51 AM »
Well, race won't help him now.

Obama's challenge is to not be the first--and last--African-American to be President.  If he fulfills his glorious Marxist potential he will queer the image for a generation at least.
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2008, 01:35:35 AM »
Unfortunately the same unwholesome devotion the media has for him, which got him elected, will be used to paint any criticism of his failures as racism.  And it will probably be just as effective.

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2008, 02:37:32 AM »
The fact that a black man has become president means that race-preferential affirmative action is no longer needed and can be immediately stopped, right?

Ha ha ha.

I know it's a dark night, and you're drowning your sorrows in something strong and bitter. 

But I suspect you may not have understood what I said. 
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