Defiance of Gun Laws

[Blakenzy]

http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/22/gun-restrictions-have-always-bred-defian

Interesting article on civil disobedience of onerous gun laws.


Do like the rest of the world:

NO COMPROMISE!!

DISOBEY!!

[dogmush]

Money quote:

Prohibiting possession would require disarming the citizenry; whether done quickly or over a long period, it would be a monumental challenge, fraught with danger. Millions of citizens would not surrender their handguns. If black market activity in connection with the drug laws is any indication, a decades-long “war on handguns” might resemble a low-grade civil war more than a law-enforcement initiative.
Low-grade civil war?

Hmmm. Maybe that AK-47 I bought was a wiser purchase than I anticipated.

I just wish the idiots passing laws would catch on to this, then we could move on to actually trying to solve the problems.

[RoadKingLarry]

I just wish the idiots passing laws would catch on to this,

I'm not so sure "they" haven't caught on. When the tinfoil slips a little I get to wondering if the "idiots" don't actually want a low-grade civil war. Depending on how you look at it the so called war on drugs is already something of a low grade civil war.

[Nick1911]

I'm not so sure "they" haven't caught on. When the tinfoil slips a little I get to wondering if the "idiots" don't actually want a low-grade civil war. Depending on how you look at it the so called war on drugs is already something of a low grade civil war.

I've been considering that myself.

A low grade civil war would be an excellent justification for bigger and better power grabs.  Don't underestimate the political capitol to be had from a domestic crisis.

[RevDisk]

I've been considering that myself.

A low grade civil war would be an excellent justification for bigger and better power grabs.  Don't underestimate the political capitol to be had from a domestic crisis.

Meh, I dunno. The War on Drugs is beneficial to criminals, same as Prohibition. Same with most other Wars on Nouns. War on Terror is mostly profitable to defense contractors. Some scumbag countries have made some money off the process, though. 

War on Guns would not be profitable to US gun manufacturers. Maybe PRC or Russian gun manufacturers whose products will now compete on the US black market. So... No profit is pushing it domestically. And difference between Wars on Most Nouns and a War on Guns, is that politicians at all levels would be targeted. By either or both sides. I'm not advocating this. It would be costly in money, lives and liberties. I'm merely stating that in a modern Civil War (even low grade one), politicians would be targeted. More than a few Iraqi or Afghani politicians got plastered.

Hence, I don't see intentionally starting a low grade civil war to be a high priority of the political classes. Maybe by middle and senior bureaucratic ranks primarily interested in empire building.

[RocketMan]

Meh, I dunno. The War on Drugs is beneficial to criminals, same as Prohibition. Same with most other Wars on Nouns. War on Terror is mostly profitable to defense contractors. Some scumbag countries have made some money off the process, though. 

War on Guns would not be profitable to US gun manufacturers. Maybe PRC or Russian gun manufacturers whose products will now compete on the US black market. So... No profit is pushing it domestically. And difference between Wars on Most Nouns and a War on Guns, is that politicians at all levels would be targeted. By either or both sides. I'm not advocating this. It would be costly in money, lives and liberties. I'm merely stating that in a modern Civil War (even low grade one), politicians would be targeted. More than a few Iraqi or Afghani politicians got plastered.

Hence, I don't see intentionally starting a low grade civil war to be a high priority of the political classes. Maybe by middle and senior bureaucratic ranks primarily interested in empire building.

Many on the left emote rather than logically think things through like you did, Rev.  To see them generate an exploitable crisis without allowing for possible unintended consequences such as you listed is something that would not surprise me.