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Title: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: K Frame on May 30, 2022, 02:54:14 PM
According to Uncle Joe, 9mm handgun rounds are no good for self-defense because they, and I quote "...blows the lung out of the body."

https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/biden-goes-on-anti-gun-tirade-suggests-theres-no-rational-basis-for-9mm-pistols/
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: 230RN on May 30, 2022, 04:16:10 PM
“Remember, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, was never absolute,” Biden said. “You couldn’t buy a cannon when the Second Amendment was passed. You couldn’t go out and purchase a lot of weapons.”

Liar.

But that remark about "no right is absolute" appeared in some SCOTUS opinion (Heller? ) and has always irked me because, while technically correct (incarceration, execution), it implies there are no limits to the limitations that can be placed on rights.

As I figured, antis can seize upon it with abandon; I wish there had been some limitation on the offhanded SCOTUS remark in that regard.

As I said before, the Second Amendment is perhaps the shortest and most concise proscriptive clause in the whole Constitution, so I always figured they really, really meant what they said.

And in fact, just to prevent "misconstruction" of the Constitution, they added those ten amendments to it just to be hard-line specific about their intent.

Terry, 230RN

REF:
Preamble to the "Bill Of Rights."



Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 30, 2022, 06:31:01 PM
“Remember, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, was never absolute,” Biden said. “You couldn’t buy a cannon when the Second Amendment was passed. You couldn’t go out and purchase a lot of weapons.”

Of course you could.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: Ben on May 30, 2022, 06:39:39 PM
Of course you could.

He has said that literally dozens of times since he's been elected. Even liberal "fact checkers" have corrected him. His staff has to have had conversations with him on this, and it seems they approve of the "disinformation". At this point he's simply a lying propogandist. He can't fall back on the dementia on this one.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: WLJ on May 30, 2022, 06:53:57 PM
88 magnum - It shoots through schools
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: 230RN on May 30, 2022, 07:11:30 PM
That's why I called him a Liar.  In italics.  With only that one word for emphasis.  Maybe I should have added an exclamation point:

Liar !

But I figured just Liar in italics and a period kept me within the boundaries of a polite society.

I'm still waiting for comments on my "no right is absolute" remark.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: kgbsquirrel on May 30, 2022, 08:09:03 PM
He has said that literally dozens of times since he's been elected. Even liberal "fact checkers" have corrected him. His staff has to have had conversations with him on this, and it seems they approve of the "disinformation". At this point he's simply a lying propogandist. He can't fall back on the dementia on this one.

Why do you keep acting like any of this is new?  Every time you phrase it as "at this point" like it is some sort of major change.  He has always been a liar telling lies.  The only thing different is he is so mentally disabled he can no longer lie as well as he used to lie to you. 
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: 230RN on May 30, 2022, 11:07:58 PM
Oh, it's just a term of art or a cliché in this usage.  A  year from now you could still say "at this point" without implying it never happened before.

"At this point in time" or "at this point in the fermentation process" or "at this point in the patient's mental decay" would be more specific.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 31, 2022, 12:22:33 AM
Oh, it's just a term of art or a cliché in this usage.  A  year from now you could still say "at this point" without implying it never happened before.

"At this point in time" or "at this point in the fermentation process" or "at this point in the patient's mental decay" would be more specific.

"What difference at this point does it make?"

Where have I heard that before?
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: 230RN on May 31, 2022, 02:07:34 AM
It makes a difference because he still has the ears of the party faithful, and every impact adds up so that a new "truth" is built up.

This has all been known and used to great effect since at least the late 1930s.

People don't go to the polls with the counter-arguments we have presented.  They go to the polls with the lies which have been implanted.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: HankB on May 31, 2022, 08:17:11 AM
When someone says something that's incorrect, that's a mistake. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, Biden made a mistake when he said you couldn't buy a cannon when the Second Amendment was written . . . but only the first time he said it!

He was corrected after that, but KNOWING full well it's not true, Biden CONTINUES to say it. And he's been corrected every single time.

When someone says something they know is untrue, that's not a mistake - that's a LIE.

BIDEN IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!

Liars usually don't lie about just one issue - I wouldn't trust anything - ANYTHING - he says on ANY issue without independent corroboration.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: K Frame on May 31, 2022, 09:04:33 AM
"BIDEN IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR! "

What politician isn't?

Think Trump was a truthteller?

Bush I? Bush II? Clinton?
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: WLJ on May 31, 2022, 09:33:11 AM
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"It's important to remember all statements made by the occupant of the White House should be ignored at all costs," said Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. "They do in no way represent the official position of the President, the occupant of the White House, the United States, or the President of the United States who occupies the White House."
https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-forced-to-clarify-what-leader-of-white-house-said
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: HankB on May 31, 2022, 10:32:57 AM
"BIDEN IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR! "

What politician isn't?

Think Trump was a truthteller?

Bush I? Bush II? Clinton?
There's a lot of truth in the old adage that you can tell if a politician is lying by looking to see if his lips are moving. But those guys aren't in office now, some of their "lies" were differences of opinion, and lies by previous office holders do NOT excuse the lies - clumsy, obvious, blatant and repeated lies - of the current POTUS.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 31, 2022, 10:59:20 AM
lies by previous office holders do NOT excuse the lies - clumsy, obvious, blatant and repeated lies - of the current POTUS.

^^^^   This.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: 230RN on May 31, 2022, 12:37:04 PM
Why do you think advertisements are repeated so often?

Like the same one five or six times in the course of a half hour of programming.?

At $thousands  a pop?

Because the advertisers know that successive impacts are effective agents in influencing behavior.

Verified and actual proof that my soap, XYZ, presented once, on channel 704, makes no difference when crappy old soap ABC's "superiority" is presented 100 times a day on channel nine and you go to buy soap in the grocery store.

The same thing is true when you go to the polls.  "The truth will out?"

I laugh, ha-ha-ha.

No, pilgrim.... the repeated lie will out.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 31, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
Not sure if real, but if it is, I would like to buy that protestor a beer:

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_50yhfjDtJDOJjFQW6ZTpJI2X4DSwEweLDJqbge2WkkJucLWkbHz2un6XznPKlbeNIIlTL-EnUvKW8bkK37Fwd2R1RFLBi5MdnQyOpyXbrYlzp4YMyXhwTOePLqvab-v1baBY_AxxqG87JYaKVH-hY5X6S7NLC0Zaee7eGbgV00pYM3v4Bj6AaImNrg/w594-h640/1%20fghhdhfh.jpg)

Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 31, 2022, 10:14:14 PM
... aaaaaaaaaand another correction:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-ban-handgun-white-house
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: 230RN on June 01, 2022, 07:32:54 PM
^ Meh.  As has been said, "If they can ban one, they can ban them all."

"Qualifying" the ban like that is pure bull bleep.

"Canada," heh.  It just goes to show you how your rights can be trampled if they aren't spelled out specifically, like they are in the U.S.'s Bill Of Rights.

Oh, wait.... they are being trampled here in the U.S. anyhow...

...never mind. <snif>

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: K Frame on June 04, 2022, 08:58:32 AM
"and lies by previous office holders do NOT excuse the lies"

Jesus, did I ever said that it did?

It just seems that people are always SO shocked and SO offended when they realize that a politician is lying to them as if it's the first time it's ever happened...

Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: HankB on June 04, 2022, 09:19:54 AM
"and lies by previous office holders do NOT excuse the lies"

Jesus, did I ever said that it did?

It just seems that people are always SO shocked and SO offended when they realize that a politician is lying to them as if it's the first time it's ever happened...
Offended? Yes. Absolutely. Regardless of the politician's party affiliation. 

Shocked or maybe even . . . surprised?  :rofl:
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: MechAg94 on June 04, 2022, 10:26:20 AM
One comment I heard recently was asking:  How many kids did Biden kill in Afghanistan with all the drone strikes? 
I wonder if it was more than the number of kids killed in school shootings during the same time frame.
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: K Frame on June 04, 2022, 11:20:32 AM
I was in the local grocery store the other day and they had the Washington Post on sale with a big picture of Biden and the full banner headline "Biden to Congress -- ENOUGH", talking about him wanting new gun laws to end the slaughter of children...

Juxtapose that with the 600,000 or so abortions performed in, IIRC, 2020, and the headline would change to "Biden to Congress -- MORE!"

Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: WLJ on June 06, 2022, 04:20:55 PM
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CORUSCANT—Emperor Palpatine's office has announced the construction of a bigger and even more powerful Death Star equipped with a 9mm. The Death Star's blast is said to be so powerful it can blow the core out of a planet.

Emperor Palpatine Builds A Bigger, Even More Powerful Death Star Equipped With A 9mm
https://babylonbee.com/news/emperor-palpatine-builds-a-bigger-even-more-powerful-death-star-equipped-with-a-9mm
Title: Re: We have a NEW entrant in the high powered Olympics!
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 06, 2022, 07:41:33 PM
The Bee is on a roll:


https://babylonbee.com/news/gun-stores-see-7000-increase-in-customers-looking-for-totally-awesome-gun-that-blows-the-lungs-out-of-bad-guys