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Which version of Unix for my father?
« on: September 01, 2007, 12:50:40 PM »
Dad used to write a lot of scripts, etc., back in The Day... And he hates Windows XP. I think it's the "patronizing" interface...

About all he uses a computer for is surfing political chat rooms, e-mail, etc...

And he's strangely naive concerning viruses and malevolent emails...
 
So I've decided to take an old box I've got downstairs, stuff 256 or 512 megs of ram in it, and bolt in a cheap hard drive, preferably with something non-common loaded... What can I run Mozilla and Thunderbird with?

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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 01:53:11 PM »
Unix or Linux?

I'm having good luck with Ubuntu, but I'm also running it on Pentium IV and Xeon processors. 

What are the specs on that box you're assembling for him?  You may want a version with fewer bells and whistles...
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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 02:24:28 PM »
It's a coupla years old... Some sort a P3 or P4 in it, and I'll probably go with either 256 or 512 megs of RAM... It's got onboard sound, etc.
 
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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2007, 10:12:18 PM »
Something running OSX.   grin

Seriously, Ubuntu.
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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 12:07:08 AM »
My vote if for Xubuntu. It sounds like you are going to be running it on a system with precious resources, and Xubuntu is the way to go. It's based off of Ubuntu. http://www.xubuntu.org

Now if you are dead set on Unix, I would go with FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org/
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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 06:09:26 AM »
+1 for Ubuntu. If it's just for web browsing and email it should be pretty much ready to go out of the box. You might have to install a couple of basic things for browsing like flash...but that's about it.

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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2007, 09:06:20 AM »
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Something running OSX.   

Seriously, Ubuntu.

Something running OSX.  Seriously.

Fixed it for ya !   smiley

You were close.

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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2007, 04:31:35 PM »
If he's an old hand with scripting, you could do a lot worse than FreeBeastie. FreeBDS is about as 'pure' as it gets when you get down to brass tacks in the xNIX world. I ran 2.6/2.7 for a few years on my local business server/gateway and I've played with some of the later versions. It's enough to make Thompson and Ritchie proud to this day.

Here at home, I run Suse 10.x most of the time, although I'm on my W2KPro partition now.

If you want to earn some major Brownie points, go Ebay an IBM Power series desktop- you can find them (7043/150 or 7044; even 7025's) for about as much as a used Pentium class desktop- and run AIX on it. He'll love CDE and AIX comes with Netscape as an installable option. By the way, AIX 5.1 and above is fully compatible with Linux programs. IBM also has downloadable updates and service packs. I can hook you up with the URLs.

For example, here's a 7044/170 on Ebay:

$300.
IBM RS/6000 RS6000 7043-170 "44P" 333MHz 512MB ram , 2x9GB Disks AIX 5.3 ml 5 installed, GXT2000P Video

http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-RS-6000-RS6000-7044-170-512M-2x9GB-Drives-AIX-5-3_W0QQitemZ280148031872QQihZ018QQcategoryZ11215QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 01:06:16 AM »
Ubuntu.  Or possibly Xubuntu.

The difference is the user interface: Ubuntu uses Gnome by default.  Xubuntu uses XFCE, which has a few less features and is a bit faster on older machines.

There's also Kubuntu based on KDE...but at least until KDE 4.0 comes out and might be worth a look.

Gnome is broadly similar to the Mac user interface.  I had a chance to compare it with OS10.39 and there were obvious similarities...moreso than KDE for sure.

Ubuntu/Xubuntu version 7.04 "Fiesty Fawn" is really, really good code.  Very stable.  Auto-updates don't do anything stupid or alarming.  Software selection rocks.

In my opinion, Gnome needs the following: P3/750 or so CPU and 384megs RAM.  Anything less than that, I consider Xubuntu.  Anything at that point or above, I think Gnome is nice enough to stay with.

One minor issue: by default, if you ask for Thunderbird you'll get ver.1.5 series (the latest with all security updates).  There's a way to get 2.0.0.6 easily enough.  Like so:

Start by opening a terminal window and doing:

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sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

That takes you to a text editor.  Add the following two lines as two NEW lines:

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deb http://ubuntu.iuculano.it feisty thunderbird
deb-src http://ubuntu.iuculano.it feisty thunderbird

Save that, exit the editor (it's similar to Windows Notepad).

Back at the terminal, do:

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sudo apt-get update

Finally, do:

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sudo apt-get install thunderbird thunderbird-gnome-support

Also available at this repository is a set of PGP support tools if you're into encrypting mail:

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sudo apt-get install enigmail

You can also install alternate language stuff, let me know if that's an issue.

If you wanted to, you could also go straight to the repository's website:

http://ubuntu.iuculano.it/dists/feisty/thunderbird/

...and download and manually install any of the .DEB files listed.  The problem with doing it that way versus how I've done it above is that doing it "the proper way", if the manager of that repository ever posts a 2.0.0.7 or whatever version, Ubuntu will auto-update from it.  And yes, it's a trustworthy repository Smiley.

I'll post more Ubuntu tips here tomorrow Smiley.

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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2007, 03:51:27 AM »
Sounds like Ubuntu would be a good fit.  Just put /home on a separate partition, so version upgrades will be a minor pain instead of potentially a major one.
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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 04:04:41 AM »
Don't forget OpenSolaris is now available for free..  on x86 platforms, too..

Sun Microsystems was founded on BSD, and rolled in many of the SysV APIs..
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Re: Which version of Unix for my father?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 05:09:10 AM »
Xubuntu. It's great on old machines.