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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2008, 05:48:00 AM »
my steering and brakes aren't disabled  just no longer enhanced
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2008, 05:57:20 AM »
Even tho they aren't totally non-functional, a vehicle designed around power steering and braking is really not safe to drive without them operating. Especially on a big enough downhill to coast at the speed limit.
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2008, 06:45:33 AM »
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Congress should pass a law that says that all roads have to be downhill

Would you be terribly surprised if they did? 

Not in the slightest  rolleyes


With a manual transmission, I have on occasion shut off the key in gear for extra "braking" on very steep slopes.  It doesn't save any gas, though.

Heck, I've driven old trucks that the standard method of stopping was to shift into low gear and cut the ignition Cheesy
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2008, 08:47:10 AM »
My first car was a '73 Pontiac . . . with the early "smogger" motor that barely ran.

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Sadly, today's cars are too complex for simple fixes . . .  sad
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2008, 08:47:18 AM »
Texas Transportation Code § 545.406.  COASTING.  (a)  An operator moving on a downgrade may not coast with the gears or transmission of the vehicle in neutral. 

I'm still new to the manual transmission deal.  So long as the engine is running, why would that be illegal? 
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2008, 08:57:30 AM »
I'd never heard of hypermiling and had to look it up.  It's a dumbass thing to do on several levels.

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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2008, 09:59:10 AM »
I'd never heard of hypermiling and had to look it up.  It's a dumbass thing to do on several levels.
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2008, 10:14:19 AM »
Texas Transportation Code § 545.406.  COASTING.  (a)  An operator moving on a downgrade may not coast with the gears or transmission of the vehicle in neutral. 

I'm still new to the manual transmission deal.  So long as the engine is running, why would that be illegal? 

It's a conspiracy to make you buy more gas.   laugh

Actually, even with the engine running, you're giving up a significant amount of control over the vehicle by not having it in gear.  Say you have a situation that requires you to brake and swerve to avoid some drunk biker that pulled out in front of you at a slow speed with no lights on, but you swerved in front of a dump truck that is now closing on you at 30 mph.  In your brief moment of terror you panic and slap the stick on your little car into 1st or 5th instead of 3rd.  Bang.
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2008, 11:05:35 AM »
Hypermiling would be great if it weren't for those pesky principles of physics and aerodynamics.

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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2008, 11:42:20 AM »

Actually, even with the engine running, you're giving up a significant amount of control over the vehicle by not having it in gear.  Say you have a situation that requires you to brake and swerve to avoid some drunk biker that pulled out in front of you at a slow speed with no lights on, but you swerved in front of a dump truck that is now closing on you at 30 mph.  In your brief moment of terror you panic and slap the stick on your little car into 1st or 5th instead of 3rd.  Bang.

It's kinda like waiting till you're getting into an accident, then trying to put your seat belt on.
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2008, 12:26:35 PM »
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I'm still new to the manual transmission deal.  So long as the engine is running, why would that be illegal?
Ever seen the runaway truck ramps on Colorado mountain passes?  If you're coasting down a pass in neutral, and can't get it back in gear, your brakes are gonna fry, and you'll go flying off some mountain.

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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2008, 12:37:22 PM »
You guys think the coasting thing is silly, y'all oughta see the morons that try and "draft" my work truck on the pike.  I've had 6 priuses and a handful of other tards that think they're going to save big money hanging inches off my trailer.  rolleyes

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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2008, 01:27:46 PM »
You guys think the coasting thing is silly, y'all oughta see the morons that try and "draft" my work truck on the pike.  I've had 6 priuses and a handful of other tards that think they're going to save big money hanging inches off my trailer.  rolleyes

this guy is saving a fortune in fuel
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2008, 01:57:21 PM »
You guys think the coasting thing is silly, y'all oughta see the morons that try and "draft" my work truck on the pike.  I've had 6 priuses and a handful of other tards that think they're going to save big money hanging inches off my trailer.  rolleyes

this guy is saving a fortune in fuel

Personally, I don't feel that natural locomotion is a practical solution to high gas price relief.  Furthermore, I bet the car that guy is drafting off can stop a whole heck of a lot faster then he can.  shocked

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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2008, 02:10:50 PM »
Furthermore, I bet the car that guy is drafting off can stop a whole heck of a lot faster then he can.  shocked

Which is why the boot is open.

Some guy has done over 150mph on a bicycle using this motor pacing technique, someone may have gone faster. Yes it works for cars, no it isn't a good idea, but it could in theory save a lot of fuel - don't cyclists in team events use a drafting technique to massively reduce the amount of work the main guy has to do throuhgout the bulk of the stage? Mythbusters had Tori coasting at 20mph on a bike behind a truck.

Back on topic - I've seen, or been involved with a number of near accidents where acceleration was the key to getting out of trouble. In one instance with my brother driving - he was overtaking a car on a dual carriageway doing a legal 70, the other car was doing 65-ish. Ahead a car pulled out of a side road, across both lanes and into a central area to join traffic coming in the opposite direction to us. Trouble was, he left half of his car hanging out into the lane we were in. Brother accelerated hard to finish overtaking and then pulled left sharpish. We'd have never stopped in time. Engine on is good.
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2008, 02:16:43 PM »
Mythbusters demonstrated that drafting dramatically increases gas mileage. It also dramatically increases rear-ending the car one is drafting.
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2008, 01:09:55 PM »
Suggestion:
 
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Re: Hypermiling
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2008, 02:58:20 PM »
Yeah, I've had some idiots try and draft off of me, like they think they are NASCAR drivers or something...

I DON'T want my beautiful red truck damaged if I have to slam on the brakes. I'd severely injure the idiot drafting me after the cop had left, and I had gotten the insurance information.

This hypermiling thing sounds like it'd be damaging to your drivetrain...no thanks... The reason you still have brakes and steering after power assist has failed is to enable you to come to a safe stop out of the way. I've also had instances where I needed immediate acceleration or braking to jump in a hole in traffic in the other lane to avoid some idiot...

Start driving smoother...like Bogie said, and keep your vehicle maintained. Or get a vehicle that gets higher MPG...





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