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I like Wisconsin, and won't miss Florida as much as I thought.
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2006, 11:19:26 AM »
LOL...is the Chevy a Caddy? Or a Vette? Cheesy

From what I've heard, underneath all the bling, the Rolls is a POS. Tongue

No, from what I've seen, even though they are doing it in MASS quantities, Anheiser Busch actually takes a lot of care in making their beers. I was a bit surprised myself.

IIRC the one in NH has 49 tanks that hold 33,000 gallons of beer each.
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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2006, 04:11:01 PM »
I've done the Anheiser-Busch tour in Tampa, FL, as well as doing the Busch Gardens thing.

One thing for sure, they make a metric assload of beer there, each and every day.

But I'll go quality over quantity, on that given day.

Three cases of Yuengling were procured from the Patrick AFB Class 6 store today, and cargo tied into the box of my pickup for the ride north next Wednesday.  I'll have to make it last, I understand it's hard to order stuff via mail or Internet when it comes to alcohol and state lines.  Kinda like when we snuck caseloads of Coors from Colorado to Wisconsin in our Winnebago during the late 70's.  Wink
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« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2006, 06:51:11 PM »
"Kinda like when we snuck caseloads of Coors from Colorado to Wisconsin in our Winnebago during the late 70's."

You should have tried to buy margarine in WI in the 1960's. The only stuff you could buy was an uncolored, pastey-looking goo that came with a packet of yellow food coloring  that you would knead into the mix.

A lot of people went to Illinois to buy real brand-name margarine.

What a weird state.

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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2006, 11:53:53 PM »
209 a gallon!!!

it's over 3 bucks here in Reno NV!....

I like to visit liberal college towns ythough...they often have good bookstores and cheap good food.
When I am in really lib areas I love to go into bookstore and ask for books on shooting and hunting and guns....
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2006, 02:11:51 AM »
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they make a metric assload of beer there,
LOL...I don't think I've ever used that particular unit of measurement before.

My impression was that for as much beer as they make, they seem to take pretty good care with it. For as immense as it is the plant was spotless. I've cooked in a few restaurants, nothing impresses me more than a spotless kitchen. I'll have to give this Spotted Cow a try though, if I happen to come across it in my travels.

I come from the days when there was just Bud and Miller, nobody drank Miller. Tongue
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« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2006, 03:06:08 AM »
Monkeyleg, don't take this wrong, but as a Wisconsinite, why were you buying margarine in the 60's?  Healthy eating was still a decade or two away, and being the Dairy State and all, we just used, ahem, butter.  Wink
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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2006, 01:56:31 PM »
Gewehr98, my family moved here in 1958. I was 8 years old at the time.

I don't know why my folks got margarine instead of butter. But I remember having to mix that Playdough-looking goo with the yellow dye. Really spoiled my appetite.

Wisconsin is, to put it simply, weird. The margarine example is one of many.

We elected a moderately conservative governor four times in a row, but also elected an uber-liberal US senator named Russ Feingold, both during the same time period.

Folks will vote for incumbents who are on trial for felonies.

Everything here is "da Packers." I can't tell you how many of my neighbors paint their front doors green and gold during football season. Ask them who their congressman is, though, and they don't know.

I must contradict a previous poster by saying that we do not have mountains in Wisconsin. We have some large hills. And one of those particularly rocky, hilly areas--The Dells--has been bastardized into a traffic-clogged, junkshop-ridden amusement park. It's so built up that you can't even see the rocks. It's a pimple on Utah or Colorado's **s.

We're in the top five in terms of states with the highest combination of income/property/sales taxes. But people still vote for more spending through school budget referendums, or by just returning the same spenders to office.

Wisconsinites are notoriously cheap. At one of the gun shows I worked for the WCCA, a dealer was toying with folks. He put a 4' length of clothesline at his table, and pinned a row of crisp new $1 bills on it. He put a price tag of 90 cents on each. People said, "what's wrong with them?" He told them that there was nothing wrong, they were brand new $1 bills. People would then offer him 80 cents.

These same people will, when they get their first good job, go out and spend $20,000+ on a new motorcycle simply because it says "Harley Davidson" on the tank.

There are two seasons in Wisconsin: winter, and construction season. At one of his last appearances here, Red Skelton joked that Milwaukee will be a nice city when we're through building it.

The Park East leg of the interstate was built in the 1970's. It cost millions back then, and required the demolition of scores of homes in a prime real estate area on the lower east side.

A few years ago, the powers that be decided that it would be a good idea to spend millions of dollars to demolish the Park East leg of the freeway so that new construction could start there.

Thirty or so years ago, people began to flee the high property taxes in Milwaukee county by moving to other counties and buying homes for well under $100,000. Now they're moving back to the city of Milwaukee and buying $400,000+ condominiums downtown--and paying $$$$ in taxes.

A few weeks ago I was talking with a state senator, one who's been part of the Republican leadership in Madison for several years. I told him that my wife and I are trying to position ourselves to leave WI and move down south.

He expressed feint surprise, and then said that he and his wife were also looking at leaving the state. He said he was sick of the high taxes, the weather, and the politics.

When the people who run the state want to leave, what does that tell you?

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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2006, 04:32:12 PM »
Pretty much everything you told me is something I grew up knowing, as a kid in Baraboo, or knew on my yearly Christmas visits home.  Hell, I learned to drive in Wisconsin Dells, my driving instructor said if I learned how to drive around all those $@&!ing FIBs from Chicago, then I'd have no sweat passing my driving test in Baraboo.  He was right.

I went back to the Dells a couple weeks ago, just to watch the crazy tourists.  Well, that, and to have dinner at the Ho-Chunk casino buffet.  I own a couple acres of land on County Trunk A between Baraboo and Wisconsin Dells, and it's always interesting to see how much expansion is happening from the Dells end. I'm waiting for that offer when they want to rezone from agricultural/residential to commercial.  

I've just left a ridiculously high cost-of-living area in Florida.  Floridatoday.com even headlined that 85% or more of the local population cannot afford housing there.  Wisconsin, even with the property taxes and liberal pockets like Madison, is still considerably nicer than where I left, be it Spacecoast Florida or the Sacramento Valley in Kalifornia.

My two adult stepsons are from Orange County, PRK.  The older is about as liberal-leaning as one could get and still be tolerated to live under my roof.  He should have an absolute ball near Madison, I expect him to prey on that population like a vampire visiting a blood bank. He can do that while I'm over in Lodi playing with my long-range smokeless and blackpowder rifles.  

Health-wise, I've already noticed a definite improvement since moving back up North.  My sinuses have cleared up, my skin isn't constantly broken out in rashes, and I've dropped 15 pounds just from going to work at my temp job in a warehouse from 7:00 to 3:30 each day.   (That, and my sister being a UW dietician w/the turkey bacon and brats, etc) The dogs should enjoy the change in climate, especially having a real winter.
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« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2006, 05:40:12 PM »
A few weeks ago I drove through Wisconsin via I-90.

Jeez, that's a beautiful state.

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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2006, 11:33:27 AM »
Hey:

I spent part of last week in Wisconsin! New Holstein, to be precise.

I had lunch in Lone Rock, at the airport cafe. We flew down the Wisconsin River, eyeballing the few nudies out on the sand bars. Note: It's hard to get a look at anyone at 90 miles per hour.

Wisconsin is, indeed, a purty place. I still don't want to live there; Minnesota's better. The Packers suck, too. ;-)

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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2006, 11:40:24 AM »
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The Packers suck, too. ;-)

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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2006, 12:31:27 PM »
>I spent part of last week in Wisconsin! New Holstein, to be precise.
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Which puts you about 20 minutes from me, ya snot! I woulda been willing to treat to coffe, too...

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2006, 05:10:55 PM »
Hey 'Sconsin guys.  Is there a brewery around there that is still brewing Fox Deluxe?

We used to make it in Grand Rapids, Mi. many moons ago.  Up till the 40's I think.  Then they closed the brewery.  

About 25 years ago I bought a case in Chicago and it seemed to me the brewery was somewhere in Wisconsin.
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2006, 05:30:13 AM »
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Hey 'Sconsin guys.  Is there a brewery around there that is still brewing Fox Deluxe?

We used to make it in Grand Rapids, Mi. many moons ago.  Up till the 40's I think.  Then they closed the brewery.  

About 25 years ago I bought a case in Chicago and it seemed to me the brewery was somewhere in Wisconsin.
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2006, 08:13:11 AM »
Dick has pretty much nailed the state.

In essence, because Wisconsin is such a "good state" in so many ways, the nominaly conservative people are lax, and buy the folksy line of BS the liberals like Finegold and Kohl spouted to get elected. Then once they're incumbents, they get institutionalized. Doyle only got elected because the serving Lt. Govenor McCallum comitted the mortal sin of not being Govenor Tommy Thompson, who had departed for Bush's cabinet.

This upcoming election is key. There are a number of issues people are irritated over, taxes, voter ID/fraud, CCW, Indian casino gambling, and corruption.

Doyle has been a roadblock on every one of these issues.

If we can get Green in, and maintain the Republican majority in both houses, we can reverse a lot of the damage here. We can pass true tax reform, and a balanced budget amendment, stringent voter ID to cut back on vote fraud (that goes 99% for the Democrats here, and if you discount fraud, we may well be a "red state".), and get CCW passed.

There have also been some other promising signs, a handful of powerful RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) in the legislature who run under the GOP because the district is so slanted, have been unseated by true conservatives, who bucked their own party to do it. This shows the peoples taste for true conservatisim, and hopefuly the state GOP took notice. If they run as true conservatives, they'll win. Milwaukee and Madison don't have enough liberals to stop them. And if we can get voter ID, God willing, they never will again&

And unlike Minnesota's DFL, a few of our "Farm Democrats" are actualy berable...

Fall '06 is the "perfect storm". It's the battle that will make or break conservatisim in most all fronts in Wisconsin.

If we win, I'll stay. If we lose, I might start thinking about moving before our girls all enter first grade and start putting down roots. However, it'll be a tough choice, as 90% of our extended family is in the state.
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2006, 09:26:08 AM »
I was up in Janesville, WI the past three weeks.  

Small town of ~60K people.  GREAT food.  Had all the amenities you could ask for - especially for a "small" town.  Stores, car dealerships, hotels, etc.  

Summer is great.  I've heard winter can be a bear but last winter was a record warm one.  

Global warming might turn WI into "the place to be".   Smiley


Edit to add:  Killed many a spotted cow while I was there.....  Smiley

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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2006, 09:47:23 AM »
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>I spent part of last week in Wisconsin! New Holstein, to be precise.
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Which puts you about 20 minutes from me, ya snot! I woulda been willing to treat to coffe, too...
Maybe even less, by air. The 90mph I mentioned is my "fast cruise" in the Champ. There's a group that holds a fly-in at New Holstein each year, at the same time as the *other* fly-in at OshKosh.

I'll be back next year at about the same time.

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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2006, 10:41:07 AM »
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