Post by: johnster999 on February 21, 2008, 11:24:42 AM
By Margery Eagan
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Im an Obama girl and my man throttled Hillary Clinton, again, Tuesday night.
Suddenly, the impossible is real.
Suddenly, Im nervous. Very nervous, actually.
Im nervous because an otherwise normal grownup told me yesterday shes watched the will.i.am (Black Eyed Peas) Yes We Can Obama video about 100 times and gets weepy every time.
Im nervous because a longtime political type, normally quite cynical, now waxes rhapsodic about Obamas cool.
Hes elegant, controlled, the best-dressed candidate ever, he says. Never a red tie, yellow or bright blue. No, Obama does a subdued lean charcoal gray suit with a gray or silvery tie. Everything muted, measured, fluid. He floats onto the stage, a bit of the Fred Astaire thing going.
Fred Astaire?
This same man, 100 percent anti-illegal aliens, fears Obama could pull a Reagan or a JFK on the Mexican border, head down there, chanting, Tear down this wall! or even do an Ich bin ein Tijuana!!!
Hes with Obama anyway.
Im nervous because Harvard political genius Elaine Kamarck told me Hillary understands the various messes were in far better than Obama.
Suppose Kamarcks right?
Im nervous about the OBambi factor. Will the terrorists move in next door when Obamas in the White House?
Im nervous because Michelle Obama, about whom I just wrote a fawning puff piece, now says that until her husbands stunning ascendancy, shes never before been proud of America. Huh?
Barack now claims she didnt mean it. Oh, yes she did. We all know the insufferable, holier-than-thou, Blame-America-First types who lecture the unwashed from the rarefied air of Cambridge and Brookline.
If I wanted lecturing, Id be with Hillary.
Im nervous because too many Obama-philes sound like Moonies, or Hare Krishnas, or the Hale-Bopp-Is-Coming-To-Get-Me nuts.
These true believers Obama-ize everything. They speak Obama-ese. Knit for Obama. Run for Obama. Gamble - Hold Em Barack! - for Obama. They make Obama cakes, underwear, jewelry. They send Valentine cards reading, I want to Barack your world!
At campaign rallies people scream, cry, even faint as Obama calmly calls for the EMTs. When supporters pant en masse, I love you! (like The Beatles, circa 1964), Barack says, I love you back with that deliciously charming, almost cocky smile.
Oh - Im nervous because its all gone to his head and he hasnt even won yet.
Im nervous because its gone to a lot of other peoples heads as well. Maryland Congressman Elijah Cummings introduced Obama last week in Baltimore and said, This is not a campaign for president of the United States, this is a movement to change the world.
He walks into a room and you want to follow him somewhere, anywhere, says George Clooney.
Ill do whatever he says to do, says actress Halle Berry. Ill collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear.
Im nervous because nobodys quite sure what Obama stands for, even his supporters. ( I cant wait to see, said actress/activist Susan Sarandon, declaring full support nonetheless).
Im nervous because even his biggest fans cant name Obamas accomplishments, including Texas state Sen. Kirk Watson, an Obama-man who humiliated himself when MSNBCs Chris Matthews asked him about five times to name something, anything, Obamas done. Watson hemmed. Watson hawed. Watson gave up.
Im nervous because John McCain says Obamas is an eloquent but empty call for change and in the wee, wee hours, a nagging voice whispers, suppose McCains right, too? Then what?
Suddenly, the impossible is real.
Suddenly, Im nervous. Very nervous, actually.
Im nervous because an otherwise normal grownup told me yesterday shes watched the will.i.am (Black Eyed Peas) Yes We Can Obama video about 100 times and gets weepy every time.
Im nervous because a longtime political type, normally quite cynical, now waxes rhapsodic about Obamas cool.
Hes elegant, controlled, the best-dressed candidate ever, he says. Never a red tie, yellow or bright blue. No, Obama does a subdued lean charcoal gray suit with a gray or silvery tie. Everything muted, measured, fluid. He floats onto the stage, a bit of the Fred Astaire thing going.
Fred Astaire?
This same man, 100 percent anti-illegal aliens, fears Obama could pull a Reagan or a JFK on the Mexican border, head down there, chanting, Tear down this wall! or even do an Ich bin ein Tijuana!!!
Hes with Obama anyway.
Im nervous because Harvard political genius Elaine Kamarck told me Hillary understands the various messes were in far better than Obama.
Suppose Kamarcks right?
Im nervous about the OBambi factor. Will the terrorists move in next door when Obamas in the White House?
Im nervous because Michelle Obama, about whom I just wrote a fawning puff piece, now says that until her husbands stunning ascendancy, shes never before been proud of America. Huh?
Barack now claims she didnt mean it. Oh, yes she did. We all know the insufferable, holier-than-thou, Blame-America-First types who lecture the unwashed from the rarefied air of Cambridge and Brookline.
If I wanted lecturing, Id be with Hillary.
Im nervous because too many Obama-philes sound like Moonies, or Hare Krishnas, or the Hale-Bopp-Is-Coming-To-Get-Me nuts.
These true believers Obama-ize everything. They speak Obama-ese. Knit for Obama. Run for Obama. Gamble - Hold Em Barack! - for Obama. They make Obama cakes, underwear, jewelry. They send Valentine cards reading, I want to Barack your world!
At campaign rallies people scream, cry, even faint as Obama calmly calls for the EMTs. When supporters pant en masse, I love you! (like The Beatles, circa 1964), Barack says, I love you back with that deliciously charming, almost cocky smile.
Oh - Im nervous because its all gone to his head and he hasnt even won yet.
Im nervous because its gone to a lot of other peoples heads as well. Maryland Congressman Elijah Cummings introduced Obama last week in Baltimore and said, This is not a campaign for president of the United States, this is a movement to change the world.
He walks into a room and you want to follow him somewhere, anywhere, says George Clooney.
Ill do whatever he says to do, says actress Halle Berry. Ill collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear.
Im nervous because nobodys quite sure what Obama stands for, even his supporters. ( I cant wait to see, said actress/activist Susan Sarandon, declaring full support nonetheless).
Im nervous because even his biggest fans cant name Obamas accomplishments, including Texas state Sen. Kirk Watson, an Obama-man who humiliated himself when MSNBCs Chris Matthews asked him about five times to name something, anything, Obamas done. Watson hemmed. Watson hawed. Watson gave up.
Im nervous because John McCain says Obamas is an eloquent but empty call for change and in the wee, wee hours, a nagging voice whispers, suppose McCains right, too? Then what?
An interesting case study of the Obama phenomenon. The fact the columnist still describes herself as an "Obama girl" makes it even more telling.
Post by: Manedwolf on February 21, 2008, 11:31:17 AM
That they currently enjoy peace and security at home, they have enough to eat, they have power and water every day. When they go out to the store, they can be reasonably sure the shelves will be fully stocked. When they go to the gas station, they can be reasonably sure there will be gasoline in the tanks, and no dry pumps, no long lines or riots. Would they want that, their complacently comfortable existence, to "change"?
It'd be change, wouldn't it?
Post by: CAnnoneer on February 21, 2008, 12:34:27 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 21, 2008, 02:06:36 PM
Post by: Boomhauer on February 21, 2008, 02:28:25 PM
Hitler was popular. And freely elected. And he promised great change for the German people.
Post by: Balog on February 21, 2008, 02:30:50 PM
I think; I'm still not %100 clear on what that means.
Post by: Boomhauer on February 21, 2008, 02:35:01 PM
never-mind. Googled it.
Yeah, so what? If we ignore history, we are doomed to repeat it.
Post by: Balog on February 21, 2008, 02:38:12 PM
Post by: Bogie on February 21, 2008, 04:19:26 PM
She's just evidence that once you go Barack, you never go back.
Post by: Strings on February 21, 2008, 04:43:19 PM
And Godwin's Law, while somewhat applicable, does get overused. in this case, it might be an apt point to consider...
Post by: Bogie on February 21, 2008, 04:55:12 PM
Now to go work on more puns...
Post by: Manedwolf on February 21, 2008, 05:08:26 PM
Post by: longeyes on February 21, 2008, 05:51:21 PM
Obama will be President Neo, the First President of the United States of The Matrix.
Post by: Strings on February 21, 2008, 07:27:25 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 22, 2008, 04:43:29 PM
Post by: Lennyjoe on February 22, 2008, 06:32:42 PM
Post by: Strings on February 22, 2008, 11:34:31 PM
Post by: bedlamite on February 22, 2008, 11:53:04 PM
Post by: Strings on February 22, 2008, 11:56:30 PM
putz
Post by: bedlamite on February 23, 2008, 12:06:06 AM
Post by: Strings on February 23, 2008, 01:04:10 AM
Post by: Bogie on February 23, 2008, 07:53:37 AM
(working on a Nobama button)
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 23, 2008, 08:24:46 AM
Fistful, tell my wife that. Make sure she does NOT have any weapons nearby first though: she may decide to demonstrate that there IS a Spoon...
I can stop bullets in mid-air. And I know kung-fu.
Post by: Bogie on February 23, 2008, 08:31:41 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on February 23, 2008, 09:46:46 AM
There is no spoon.
The cake is a lie.
Post by: grislyatoms on February 23, 2008, 09:49:33 AM
And he can cloud men's minds... 15 minutes in his presence, and they walk away, just slowly shaking their heads, muttering the direst of obscenities under their breath...
That's a different couple of folks hanging around these parts lately, actually...
Post by: seeker_two on February 23, 2008, 01:51:32 PM
And he can cloud men's minds... 15 minutes in his presence, and they walk away, just slowly shaking their heads, muttering the direst of obscenities under their breath...
I thought that was my job.....
Post by: Bogie on February 23, 2008, 02:05:57 PM
Post by: Tecumseh on February 25, 2008, 09:36:17 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on February 25, 2008, 09:54:34 AM
It also feels that way with some of the GOP members. Essentially they will only vote GOP. No matter what.
Yes? I want to keep my money, my guns, and my freedom to act without a nanny state, thanks.
I've not yet seen a Democrat that doesn't love taxes and hate guns in the hands of the common people.
Post by: Tecumseh on February 25, 2008, 11:00:47 AM
It also feels that way with some of the GOP members. Essentially they will only vote GOP. No matter what.
Yes? I want to keep my money, my guns, and my freedom to act without a nanny state, thanks.
I've not yet seen a Democrat that doesn't love taxes and hate guns in the hands of the common people.
Post by: Marnoot on February 25, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake.
Post by: MechAg94 on February 25, 2008, 01:48:38 PM
Now I just heard an Obama interview with a local guy in Houston. He was asked if he would raise taxes. He said he would raise taxes on the top 1% and lower them on people making 75K or lower.
Post by: Manedwolf on February 25, 2008, 02:07:45 PM
I was listening to Medved a little today. He had several Obama supporters calling in. It has been a while since I have heard people so long on hope yet short on details. They claimed he was going to fix all the problems, but when Medved asked them how, they couldn't say.
Now I just heard an Obama interview with a local guy in Houston. He was asked if he would raise taxes. He said he would raise taxes on the top 1% and lower them on people making 75K or lower.
Now I just heard an Obama interview with a local guy in Houston. He was asked if he would raise taxes. He said he would raise taxes on the top 1% and lower them on people making 75K or lower.
Um. $75K is hardly a fortune in a lot of areas of the country, especially if you have a family! Northeast, SoCal, etc, that's just "Also can sometimes afford to eat meat for dinner."
It's just as I always say. Democrats, deep down, want a powerful elite watching over a population kept continually poor and on the public dole. They're easier to control that way. None of those uppity entrepreneurs trying to rise out of their class.
Post by: MechAg94 on February 26, 2008, 05:16:18 AM
I just wish they would be honest about what they are trying to do. They are not taxing the rich. The rich already have their millions in tax shelters and such. More taxes won't affect them or at least won't affect their fortune. They are really taxing people who are trying to get rich.
As you said, rigging the system to keep the rich rich, and the poor poor.
Post by: longeyes on February 26, 2008, 04:15:55 PM
Post by: Strings on February 26, 2008, 04:40:14 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 26, 2008, 07:24:15 PM
The question then becomes, longeyes, how do we decide who gets to vote and who doesn't? Let's face it: remove the right from one group, and you emplace the possibility of that right being taken from all...
Down boy. He didn't say they should be disenfranchised, he just said they shouldn't vote. And he's right.
Don't you agree?
Post by: Strings on February 26, 2008, 08:29:41 PM
While there are HUGE blocks of people who I would rather didn't hit the polls on election day, I do NOT want to see a day where folks are kept away...
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 26, 2008, 08:34:32 PM
Oh, come on. Not even weird folk like witches and girly-men in kilts and such? We gots to have at least some standards.
Post by: Strings on February 26, 2008, 08:36:40 PM
I'm SOOO looking forward to next year's National. I mean, the river is just SOOOO handy!
Post by: Balog on February 28, 2008, 01:34:22 PM
One day, fistful...
I'm SOOO looking forward to next year's National. I mean, the river is just SOOOO handy!
I'm SOOO looking forward to next year's National. I mean, the river is just SOOOO handy!
Just don't go all BrokenPa and set it on fire.
Post by: Bogie on February 28, 2008, 02:52:25 PM
Personally, I think that there needs to be a test, given in whatever language, with no time limit, to determine if the person actually knows enough about the issues at hand to vote. Get rid of the racists, the women who are voting for a candidate because he's "kinda cute," and the "walk in, and pull the straight ticket" lever folks.
REQUIRE people to think.
I'm guessing that it'd be possible to dumb all the issues down to 2nd/3rd grade reading level...
Post by: longeyes on February 29, 2008, 07:51:23 AM
Post by: ExSoldier on February 29, 2008, 10:19:23 AM
It also feels that way with some of the GOP members. Essentially they will only vote GOP. No matter what.
Yes? I want to keep my money, my guns, and my freedom to act without a nanny state, thanks.
I've not yet seen a Democrat that doesn't love taxes and hate guns in the hands of the common people.
Huckabee was the only Governor out of 50 to not only hold a CCW while in office he actually carried it, as well. Huckabee was very pointed in bringing up the 2nd Amendment during nearly every debate. Huck may have some other views subject to argument, but I have no doubt he's pro-gun all the way.
Post by: Manedwolf on March 01, 2008, 04:40:42 AM
Okay, now I'm officially freaked out at the cultlike stupidity of some Americans.
Post by: longeyes on March 02, 2008, 09:04:40 AM
Post by: gunsmith on March 05, 2008, 02:36:06 PM
Good thing is that Hillary has a corrupt machine in place that will stop him this time.
Post by: Strings on March 05, 2008, 03:04:41 PM
Besides, you went on record earlier as saying he was the anti-christ...
Post by: johnster999 on March 05, 2008, 08:15:58 PM
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/10/080310fa_fact_collins?currentPage=3
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(Michelle) Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: were a divided country, were a country that is just downright mean, we are guided by fear, were a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents. We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day, she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. Folks are just jammed up, and its gotten worse over my lifetime. And, doggone it, Im young. Forty-four!
No wonder she has trouble being proud of this mean country. Especially when you're jammed up and only Forty-four.
Post by: longeyes on March 05, 2008, 09:33:22 PM
Post by: Balog on March 06, 2008, 01:23:53 PM