Author Topic: GOP 2012 ticket prediction (Read 48066 times)

TommyGunn · « **Reply #75 on:** May 20, 2011, 11:27:21 PM »

Quote from: Tallpine on May 20, 2011, 10:04:51 PM

When you're headed off a cliff, it makes little difference whether you are in the left lane or the right lane

Yeah .... it won't make any difference after tomorrow.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #76 on:** May 21, 2011, 12:03:53 AM »

Quote from: MicroBalrog on May 20, 2011, 08:45:07 PM

Okay.

I *understand* that you agree[/]i] with this world-view.

Do you genuinely not understand why it sounds offensive to some individuals, or are you just trying to make a rhetorical point?

To answer very generally, yes, I know what is going on here. Don't worry about that.

To answer more specifically, I understand that certain religious ideas, especially when associated with certain political ideas, have been so vilified that people run screaming from perfectly progressive, tolerant and reasonable utterances.

I understand that many people have an unreasonable fear of religious ideas and religious motives for public policy.

I further understand that people read things that aren't supplied by the text.

All that being said, I have stated that I don't know too much about Huckabee. He may be just as bad as some say.

seeker_two · « **Reply #77 on:** May 21, 2011, 12:51:53 PM »

I've been thinking.....considering the current GOP leadership seems to be made up of the Steele/Romney/McCain types, maybe we need to change our definition of RINO to describe the Palin/Cain/Paul types....and make being a RINO a good thing....

RocketMan · « **Reply #78 on:** May 21, 2011, 01:11:45 PM »

Herman Cain has made it official. He's running for POTUS in 2012. The FoxNews story is actually behind the curve, as FoxNews stories often are. Cain has announced.
Pawlenty is supposedly going to announce he is running for POTUS on Monday.

SteveT · « **Reply #79 on:** May 21, 2011, 01:58:45 PM »

Quote from: RocketMan on May 21, 2011, 01:11:45 PM

Herman Cain has made it official. He's running for POTUS in 2012. The FoxNews story is actually behind the curve, as FoxNews stories often are. Cain has announced.
Pawlenty is supposedly going to announce he is running for POTUS on Monday.

Yawn, on both counts. Neither is interesting, and more important neither will get the nomination. Romney recently raised $10 million in one day.

seeker_two · « **Reply #80 on:** May 21, 2011, 02:52:27 PM »

Quote from: SteveT on May 21, 2011, 01:58:45 PM

Romney recently raised $10 million in one day.

Be interesting to know from whom......

Boomhauer · « **Reply #81 on:** May 21, 2011, 06:31:27 PM »

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Cain has announced.

Alright! Any bets on to when we start hearing "UNCLE TOM RACE TRAITOR!!111!!!!!" on nationwide TV?

makattak · « **Reply #82 on:** May 21, 2011, 10:15:52 PM »

Quote from: Avenger29 on May 21, 2011, 06:31:27 PM

Alright! Any bets on to when we start hearing "UNCLE TOM RACE TRAITOR!!111!!!!!" on nationwide TV?

He'll have to be a viable threat first. Otherwise, it'd be just like they call ALL conservative blacks that.

Oh, wait...

grampster · « **Reply #83 on:** May 21, 2011, 10:30:47 PM »

I've always liked Sara Palin. She's not afraid to mix it up and generally buries those who rip her. Trouble is she has a screechy voice. Unfortunately, too many Americans vote for fluff not issues. I think Sara Palin is more valuable to our country doing what she does...bring the conservative message to the masses from outside government....maybe run for Senator next time around and dispose of that corrupt female RINO from Alaska.

I'd like to see Bachman for potus. She's well spoken, she's conservative, she has a great backstory if what I have read is accurate. She has some experience, she's unabashed conservative, did I say she is conservative?
She has presence, she's not bad looking and does not have an unpleasant voice. I think America needs a strong woman in the White House, who is not a Socialist or Marxist.

I'm unsure about the VP part of the ticket. Maybe J.C. Watts? He'd be my pick for VP upon reflection.

SteveT · « **Reply #84 on:** May 21, 2011, 10:57:48 PM »

Quote from: grampster on May 21, 2011, 10:30:47 PM

I've always liked Sara Palin. She's not afraid to mix it up and generally buries those who rip her. Trouble is she has a screechy voice. Unfortunately, too many Americans vote for fluff not issues. I think Sara Palin is more valuable to our country doing what she does...bring the conservative message to the masses from outside government....maybe run for Senator next time around and dispose of that corrupt female RINO from Alaska.

I'd like to see Bachman for potus. She's well spoken, she's conservative, she has a great backstory if what I have read is accurate. She has some experience, she's unabashed conservative, did I say she is conservative?
She has presence, she's not bad looking and does not have an unpleasant voice. I think America needs a strong woman in the White House, who is not a Socialist or Marxist.

I'm unsure about the VP part of the ticket. Maybe J.C. Watts? He'd be my pick for VP upon reflection.

Bachman looks like she's gonna run. The really good thing about her as opposed to Palin imo is that she doesn't get all whiney when she's attacked. She can really man up. She's a freaking steamroller in that regard. Palin on the other hand takes everything personally.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #85 on:** May 21, 2011, 11:29:37 PM »

The last two posts, about Palin.

Ron · « **Reply #86 on:** May 22, 2011, 09:23:53 AM »

Mitch Daniels is out.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/mitch-daniels-not-running-president

Currently I don't see a single candidate that looks capable of taking down Obama or is worthy of my vote.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #87 on:** May 22, 2011, 10:22:58 AM »

Quote from: Ron on May 22, 2011, 09:23:53 AM

Currently I don't see a single candidate that looks capable of taking down Obama or is worthy of my vote.

I know. I've been waiting for Mercer to announce.

RocketMan · « **Reply #88 on:** May 22, 2011, 10:58:51 AM »

Obama's second term is going to be a lot of fun.

TommyGunn · « **Reply #89 on:** May 22, 2011, 12:13:01 PM »

Quote from: RocketMan on May 22, 2011, 10:58:51 AM

Obama's second term is going to be a lot of fun.

Okay, now I'm officially depressed .....

Tallpine · « **Reply #90 on:** May 22, 2011, 12:15:18 PM »

Quote from: TommyGunn on May 22, 2011, 12:13:01 PM

Okay, now I'm officially depressed .....

What took you so long

SADShooter · « **Reply #91 on:** May 22, 2011, 12:30:09 PM »

Listened to Herman Cain on Fox News Sunday. He seemed to contradict himself a couple of times on domestic issues (debt ceiling, fair tax) and was clueless when asked foreign policy questions on Afghanistan and Israel/Palestine. A disappointing contrast to previous occasions when I've heard him speak.

Bigjake · « **Reply #92 on:** May 22, 2011, 12:32:33 PM »

My point was that Huckabee feels compelled by his religion to push "social justice" on us, and uses his personal, twisted world view as an excuse to mess with the rights of Gays/Lesbians/whoever he finds icky.

Religion is a fine place to find good morals, but the Huckster doesn't seem to grasp that not everyone agrees with him. People like him have done as much to drive me towards the Libertarians as the nanny state leftists have. Neither group seems to grasp that it isn't their place to meddle in other folk's lives.

I can't believe my point was that cryptic, or did you just want it spelled out ?

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #93 on:** May 22, 2011, 02:21:30 PM »

BigJake,

I don't think I mentioned that I very much agree with the American Thinker's point about Jesus not calling for "the coercive power of the state" to feed the homeless, and etc. I hope Huckabee isn't about that, but I guess we don't have to worry about it anymore. If you look at the reasons he gave for not running this time, maybe it's because he wants to work for the "social justice" stuff in the private sector, instead of through govt. Or maybe not.

Quote from: Bigjake on May 22, 2011, 12:32:33 PM

My point was that Huckabee feels compelled by his religion to push "social justice" on us, and uses his personal, twisted world view as an excuse to mess with the rights of Gays/Lesbians/whoever he finds icky.

Religion is a fine place to find good morals, but the Huckster doesn't seem to grasp that not everyone agrees with him. People like him have done as much to drive me towards the Libertarians as the nanny state leftists have. Neither group seems to grasp that it isn't their place to meddle in other folk's lives.

I can't believe my point was that cryptic, or did you just want it spelled out ?

I don't want your point spelled out, so much as backed up by examples. One of your examples, the link you provided to the Tim Russert interview, is especially interesting. If you would read just that part of the discussion (the last third of the interview), Huckabee addresses your concerns pretty well. He also does a better job than most politicians, at explaining why his anti-abortion views are motivated by scientific and ethical principles more than religious conviction. I think the same could be said of the homosexual rights issue.

stevelyn · « **Reply #94 on:** May 22, 2011, 02:28:13 PM »

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I think Sara Palin is more valuable to our country doing what she does...bring the conservative message to the masses from outside government....maybe run for Senator next time around and dispose of that corrupt female RINO from Alaska.

I agree, but if Palin was to run for US Senate, we'd rather see her unseat worthless Wonder-Boy Begich. He only has a couple years left on his term. Unfortunately the corrupt female RINO proved Alaskans could be bought rather cheaply. As long as she keeps the money train running on time they'll no doubt keep voting for her.

Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas · « **Reply #95 on:** May 22, 2011, 02:48:45 PM »

If Palin runs for a non-presidential post, it will likely be in Arizona, not AK. Already bought a house there, probably for residency requirements.

TommyGunn · « **Reply #96 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:08:21 PM »

Quote from: SADShooter on May 22, 2011, 12:30:09 PM

Listened to Herman Cain on Fox News Sunday. He seemed to contradict himself a couple of times on domestic issues (debt ceiling, fair tax) and was clueless when asked foreign policy questions on Afghanistan and Israel/Palestine. A disappointing contrast to previous occasions when I've heard him speak.

I wouldn't say he's "clueless" I would say he is defering the question until he has access to intel which would give him information to draw up a more thorough foreign policy.
This may be regarded as "uninformed" but atleast he is being honest about this, which is a lot more than I can say for many of the turkeys infesting D.C.
Not that I am happier with Cain for this .... he could have atleast given a general overview of his beliefs concerning our involvement over there.

SADShooter · « **Reply #97 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:23:51 PM »

Tommy:

When Wallace asked his opinion on the Palestinian right of return issue, it seemed obvious (to me) that Cain didn't understand what he was being asked. After 3 increasingly detailed promptings by Wallace, Cain finally said it "needed to be negotiated". In light of recent news, if he doesn't grasp the basic concept, I'm concerned.

To say he needs more info to decide the U.S. Future in Afghanistan, I'm alright with, though it means a media hatchet job similar to what Palin took in '08.

Tallpine · « **Reply #98 on:** May 22, 2011, 10:44:05 PM »

Hey, if he can run a pizza joint then he has way more experience than Obama did

grampster · « **Reply #99 on:** May 22, 2011, 11:11:03 PM »

Hey, at least Cain had an actual job in the private sector.

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