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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: wmenorr67 on January 07, 2015, 10:00:06 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/06/boehner-moves-to-punish-dissenters-despite-past-statements/
This after he stated he wouldn't do so.
Talk about cutting your nose off in spite of your face. Why do I have the feeling that by the time 2016 comes along the best option besides running away to a private island is going to be a D?
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Since I've abandoned the Republicans I'm so much more at ease.
No longer do I have to deal with the cognitive dissonance that comes with voting for (the lesser of two) evils.
I no longer look at my politics as (a blood) sport. Politics has been debased to the level of football in the USA. I refuse to choose a team when they are both opposed to me and my natural rights. Between the uneducated masses and the monied elite our politics have turned into the Roman coliseum. It hardly matter who wins, it's all theater (think WWF).
My vote is now my imprimatur of my approval. There are very few of whom I approve.
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Why is anyone surprised? And what was the " goal" of that lil exercise in fail?
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Wasn't there a proverb about small men in positions of authority?
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Why is anyone surprised? And what was the " goal" of that lil exercise in fail?
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I'm thinking most of us aren't surprised. Just disappointed. Again.
On a tangent, I read a few days ago that the 2016 Republican primary is looking to have the greatest number ever of people throwing their hats in the ring. Nothing like further showing the world how disjointed and unorganized the party is.
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The republicans are the masters of self mutilation.
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. . . I read a few days ago that the 2016 Republican primary is looking to have the greatest number ever of people throwing their hats in the ring. Nothing like further showing the world how disjointed and unorganized the party is.
The Boehner/McConnell/McCain wing of the party will be overjoyed to have someone OTHER than Democrats to fight against.
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I was curious what the guy who voted for rand paul was sending out
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Here's what Whitman says and he outlines the fail pretty well. Can someone pits it in acway the nonfacebook folks can read?
https://www.facebook.com/RepRobWittman/posts/10152630319822634
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Folks, I wanted to make sure you all had heard my thoughts on the election for Speaker of the House yesterday:
Since being elected to Congress, I have consistently fought for accountability from congressional leadership, demanding year after year that the House eliminate the outdated August recess and remain in session to complete the work we were elected to do. I have also consistently urged a return to regular budget order, in which a budget resolution and funding bills are passed on a regular schedule in order to provide certainty and transparency, both of which are missing when Congress funds the government using massive, irresponsible funding bills such as the one passed in December.
These positions have not necessarily made me popular with congressional leadership, but I believe in doing what is right. The Speaker of the House takes direction from the House Republican Conference, and it is the responsibility of every member of the Conference to hold congressional leadership accountable to the people.
That being said, John Boehner was the only candidate to put his name forward for Speaker when the Republican Conference met in November to discuss this critical, important position. None of the other candidates put their names forward more than three business days before yesterday’s vote, which did not allow for a fair, open, and honest debate. What’s more, none of the other candidates even contacted me to ask for my vote or explain to me their vision for battling executive branch overreach and passing responsible legislation to get our country back on track. Theirs were not serious campaigns for Speaker – they were merely symbolic. I have heard consistently from my constituents that they do not want me to take symbolic votes. Instead, they want meaningful action.
No matter who is in the Speaker’s chair, my focus is on representing the people of Virginia’s First District and on upholding our Constitution. I have shown that throughout Speaker Boehner’s tenure, and I will continue to do so during this new session of Congress.
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Why did these serious political,players wait till 3 days before the election to pretend they were gonna effect change? Or was this just really really bad political theatre? Self destructive public autoeroticism gone bad? What does voting for rand paul for speaker of the house say about your movement/party?
Anyone?
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He sure uses a lot of words to not say anything.
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But he didn't vote for a senator for speaker of the house. And he kicked crabil's butt at the polls
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Why did these serious political,players wait till 3 days before the election to pretend they were gonna effect change? Or was this just really really bad political theatre? Self destructive public autoeroticism gone bad? What does voting for rand paul for speaker of the house say about your movement/party?
Anyone?
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I was pretty perturbed until I read my Rep Glen Grothman's take on it, which jived pretty closely to the above statement by Whitman.
FTR, I lived in Grothman's district for several years and he's always been level headed and pretty much my favorite political figure in the state. The local fish wrapper had a story about him supporting boehner, which annoyed me, until I read his reasoning in the article.
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Yea it sucks. No fan of the well tanned man but the opposition needs to improve their game. Heck they really didn't have a game sadly
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Saw that my Congressman Jim Bridenstine voted for Gohmert. Why, I don't know but only one to vote for him other than Gohmert himself.
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Why did these serious political,players wait till 3 days before the election to pretend they were gonna effect change? Or was this just really really bad political theatre? Self destructive public autoeroticism gone bad? What does voting for rand paul for speaker of the house say about your movement/party?
Anyone?
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Speaker of HoR does not currently need to be a member of hte HoR. They could have elected some dude off the street. Perhaps Rand is the guy's favorite GOP policritter at the moment?
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So you think it's a smooth move? Or just part of the circus? Do you think it advanced the cause? Did any of this "achieve" something?
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You know what was crazy about this to me?
Boehner staying as Speaker does not surprise me.
What really gets my goat about this is that Trey Gowdy not only "missed his plane to DC" (yes, that's his excuse for not being there to vote) but also says that he would have voted for Boehner to be Speaker.
What. The. *expletive deleted*ck. Gowdy!
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So you think it's a smooth move? Or just part of the circus? Do you think it advanced the cause? Did any of this "achieve" something?
Circus. The Republican wing of the Republican Party needs to better organize if it expects to achieve anything beyond warming a seat in DC.
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Down here in the Most
Conservative Republican State in the country we are having our own angst-fest. Mick Mulvaney voted for Boehner and was promptly scorched by the state's most effective muckraker, Sic Willy.
Here Sic calls out Mulvaney on vote for Boehner -- http://www.fitsnews.com/2015/01/06/brutal-rebuke-mick-mulvaney/ The nut “Once people take a big step like this over to the dark side they rarely, rarely ever come back,” the email read. “This was a hard vote. Future sell-outs will be easy. Watch – by 2016, Mick Mulvaney will be a militant jock-sniffing disciple of Lindsey Graham. (He) started down that road two years ago. You can see it in his eyes. This year’s idiots will be the same. They’ll claim they are merely trying to help ‘keep things organized’ as they herd their fellow conservatives off to the gas chambers in return for a new cot and an extra piece of stale bread.”
Rough stuff.
Here is Mulvaney's response to Sic's call out -- http://www.fitsnews.com/2015/01/06/mick-mulvaney-issues-statement-john-boehner-vote/ Several nuts in his response. There was an attempt to oust John Boehner as Speaker of the House today. I didn’t participate in it. That may make some people back home angry. I understand that, but I’ve got some experience with coup attempts against the Speaker, and what I learned two years ago factored heavily in my decision today not to join the mutiny.
First, I learned two years ago that people lie about how they are going to vote. And you cannot go into this kind of fight with people you do not trust. We walked onto the floor two years ago with signed pledges – handwritten promises – from more than enough people to deny Boehner his job. But when it came time to vote, almost half of those people changed their minds – including some of those who voted against Boehner today. Fool me once, shame on you …
I also learned that the Floor of the House is the wrong place to have this battle. The hard truth is that we had an election for Speaker in November – just among Republicans. THAT was the time to fight. But not a single person ran against Boehner. Not one. If they had, we could’ve had a secret ballot to find out what the true level of opposition to John Boehner was. In fact, we could’ve done that as late as Monday night, on a vote of “no confidence” in the Speaker. But that didn’t happen … and at least one of the supposed challengers to Boehner today didn’t even go to the meeting last night. That told me a lot.
I understand people’s frustration and anger over what is happening in Washington. And I also acknowledge that John Boehner may be partly to blame. But this was a fool’s errand. I am all for fighting, but I am more interested in fighting and winning than I am fighting an unwinnable battle.
Finally, the most troubling accusation I have heard regarding the Boehner vote is that I have “sold out” my conservative principles. All I can say is this: take a look at my voting record. It is one of the most conservative in Congress. And I was joined today by the likes of Jim Jordan, Raul Labrador, Trey Gowdy, Mark Sanford, Trent Franks, Tom McClintock, Matt Salmon, Tom Price, Sam Johnson, and Jeb Hensarling. If I “sold out” then I did so joined by some of the most tried and tested conservative voices in Washington.
The view of the fight on the line of scrimmage looks different than what is seen from the announcer's booth.
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^^Exactly the R's aren't using the same playbook if they are even on the same team.
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Dumb, stupid move. Very amateurish. It had no chance of succeeding, and all it did was piss off some powerful people who we need as allies.
So you think it's a smooth move? Or just part of the circus? Do you think it advanced the cause? Did any of this "achieve" something?
A very good question. One that should be asked a lot more often, by a lot more people.
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I watched it and kept thinking " it's gonna get better it can't be this retarded" and it just got worse. It was worse than the afternoon sessions at a NORML conference. All it needed was someone in a wookie suit. I have Japanese relatives that watched and are going wtf
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While I really wanted the SOB gone, now that the initial but of being pissed off has passed I'm still pissed but for different reason.
They took the golden opportunity and ditched it in favor of last minute grandstanding.
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Down here in the Most Conservative Republican State in the country we are having our own angst-fest. Mick Mulvaney voted for Boehner and was promptly scorched by the state's most effective muckraker, Sic Willy.
Here Sic calls out Mulvaney on vote for Boehner -- http://www.fitsnews.com/2015/01/06/brutal-rebuke-mick-mulvaney/ The nut Rough stuff.
Here is Mulvaney's response to Sic's call out -- http://www.fitsnews.com/2015/01/06/mick-mulvaney-issues-statement-john-boehner-vote/ Several nuts in his response. The view of the fight on the line of scrimmage looks different than what is seen from the announcer's booth.
So the liar he knows is better than the liar he doesn't know.
Regardless of how good or bad the opposition might be, they could phone it in and accomplish more than Boehner. He just does whatever Obama wants in the end.
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While I really wanted the SOB gone, now that the initial but of being pissed off has passed I'm still pissed but for different reason.
They took the golden opportunity and ditched it in favor of last minute grandstanding.
I don't know how much of a golden opportunity it was. The opportunity is it put a lot of people on record voting for Boehner that have spent a lot of time grand standing as hard core conservatives. It gives ammunition to their opponents come the next election (at least down here).
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The opportunity was when no one tossed their name in the ring until just before the floor vote.
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And even the great white hope Webster hadn't told his buddy Nugent the nite before he was running.they started passing the bottle of lotion around a year ago
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