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Title: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: TechMan on March 16, 2021, 11:19:32 AM
Cocaine Mitch is promising to go full scorched earth if Dems remove the filibuster, "Nobody serving in this chamber can even begin to imagine what a completely scorched earth senate would look like."  He says that if the Dem remove the filibuster he'll require a quorum for everything and past actions will seem like "child's play."

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/03/16/scorched-earth-mitch-mcconnell-tells-dems-just-how-hell-respond-if-they-get-rid-of-the-filibuster/ (https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/03/16/scorched-earth-mitch-mcconnell-tells-dems-just-how-hell-respond-if-they-get-rid-of-the-filibuster/)
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: K Frame on March 16, 2021, 12:21:31 PM
I think the Dems are smoking crack if they think they can force that through...

Manchin has already come out hard in opposition to it, and I believe there are a couple other Dems in smaller Red states who are leaning the same way.

The Democrat from a small Red state is an important consideration, because they know that this would be about as devastating to small state influence in the political arena as the elimination of the Electoral College or pulling DC in as a full state.



Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2021, 12:47:29 PM
I think the Dems are smoking crack if they think they can force that through...

Manchin has already come out hard in opposition to it, and I believe there are a couple other Dems in smaller Red states who are leaning the same way.

The Democrat from a small Red state is an important consideration, because they know that this would be about as devastating to small state influence in the political arena as the elimination of the Electoral College or pulling DC in as a full state.
Agreed on that last.  Plus, a few of them have to realize that if the R's ever get a majority back, they could ram through whatever they wanted just as easily. 
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: BobR on March 16, 2021, 12:50:55 PM
Agreed on that last.  Plus, a few of them have to realize that if the R's ever get a majority back, they could ram through whatever they wanted just as easily.

Absolutely, have they already forgotten Harry Reid's contribution to the political processes?

bob
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Kingcreek on March 16, 2021, 02:37:23 PM
Illinois’s own senator [tinfoil] Durban is calling for doing away with the filibuster after saying how necessary it was 2 years ago.
Hypocrite much?
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Ben on March 16, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Absolutely, have they already forgotten Harry Reid's contribution to the political processes?

bob

Yes they have. The modern dem (or more rightly, progressive) party simply lives in the now. They then get to become outraged when their own dirty tricks are used against them later.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: DittoHead on March 16, 2021, 02:56:41 PM
he'll require a quorum for everything and past actions will seem like "child's play."

If that's a realistic option then he should have been doing that already, regardless of what the democrats do.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: kgbsquirrel on March 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
More kabuki theater and y'all are playing right along.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Jim147 on March 16, 2021, 07:34:41 PM
Stop writing checks your ass can't cash Mitch.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Northwoods on March 16, 2021, 08:07:12 PM
If that's a realistic option then he should have been doing that already, regardless of what the democrats do.

The way to reach across the aisle to the Democrats, and get anything worthwhile from it, is with brass knuckles.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on March 16, 2021, 08:37:16 PM
Yes they have. The modern dem (or more rightly, progressive) party simply lives in the now. They then get to become outraged when their own dirty tricks are used against them later.

Same goes for the R's too.

All the Patriot Act machinery that is now being aimed at conservative activists as if they were terrorists.  Was predicted by libertarians after 2001.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Boomhauer on March 16, 2021, 08:37:35 PM
mother *expletive deleted*er likes to talk a big game when he doesn’t have to deliver.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Nick1911 on March 16, 2021, 09:42:05 PM
Agree with Boomhauer.  The republicans like to talk a lot, but they have managed to conserve nothing.  They are useless; arguably worse than the democrats in that they do not deliver on the values they purport to stand for.

I have no time or use for anything the paper tiger Mitch McConnell has to say.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Unisaw on March 16, 2021, 10:04:57 PM
Agree with Boomhauer.  The republicans like to talk a lot, but they have managed to conserve nothing.  They are useless; arguably worse than the democrats in that they do not deliver on the values they purport to stand for.

I have no time or use for anything the paper tiger Mitch McConnell has to say.

Any time now, Lyndsay Graham will announce he is going to write a forceful letter.  He is the ultimate paper tiger.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 16, 2021, 10:10:23 PM
Agreed on that last.  Plus, a few of them have to realize that if the R's ever get a majority back, they could ram through whatever they wanted just as easily.


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 :'(
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: kgbsquirrel on March 17, 2021, 12:23:39 AM
Agree with Boomhauer.  The republicans like to talk a lot, but they have managed to conserve nothing.  They are useless; arguably worse than the democrats in that they do not deliver on the values they purport to stand for.

I have no time or use for anything the paper tiger Mitch McConnell has to say.

I'd rather have a democrat battalion in front of me than a republican battalion behind me.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: K Frame on March 17, 2021, 06:58:42 AM
Agreed on that last.  Plus, a few of them have to realize that if the R's ever get a majority back, they could ram through whatever they wanted just as easily. 

Yep, but apparently the Harry Reid lesson has been completely lost on them because "WE HAVE A MANDATE FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT!"

Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: Ron on March 17, 2021, 08:19:14 AM
The uni-party is still running the show. Trump at best was a speedbump or maybe he was there to demoralize and discredit the true right? I'm still holding out hope that there is a faction among the rulers opposed to the chosen direction. Nonetheless, with Trump getting kicked to the curb they seem to have lost and the swamp has prevailed.

Mitch is unconvincing as a defender of anything other than the swamp.

Even all the judicial appointments he pushed through were vetted by an approved uni-party institution.

Our rulers are phony and morally debased. They speak nothing but lies. Even those that court us.



 
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: MechAg94 on March 17, 2021, 08:55:22 AM
Yep, but apparently the Harry Reid lesson has been completely lost on them because "WE HAVE A MANDATE FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT!"
Democrats have no memory further back than 2 years and Republicans have no courage. 
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: MechAg94 on March 17, 2021, 08:58:40 AM

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 :'(
That thought occurred to me.   =)
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: makattak on March 17, 2021, 11:07:34 AM
Democrats have no memory further back than 2 years and Republicans have no courage.

Republican office holders have PLENTY of courage- to fight for what they actually care about.

What they will not do is fight for all the things they lied to their constituents about caring about in order to get elected. They are there to PREVENT conservatives issues from being voted on.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell promises "scorched earth" if Dems remove filibuster
Post by: DittoHead on March 17, 2021, 02:31:31 PM
Republican office holders have PLENTY of courage- to fight for what they actually care about.

What they will not do is fight for all the things they lied to their constituents about caring about in order to get elected. They are there to PREVENT conservatives issues from being voted on.
Finally the left & the right agree on something again: Mitch McConnell sucks :laugh:
Quote from: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/republican-filibuster-reform-senate-mcconnell-biden-majority.html
A specter is haunting the Republican Party. And that specter, oddly enough, is a future world in which Republicans control government and pass bills that they campaigned on.
...
McConnell benefits from rules that allow him to enact all the changes he cares about — lax regulation of business, tax cuts, and confirming judges — either with just the presidency, or the presidency plus a majority. He fears allowing his caucus to actually enact laws carrying out most of their promises. That is why the bogeyman role of Hawley and Paul is so revealing. They represent McConnell’s fear of having to translate conservative demands into concrete legislation. He’d much rather use the passions of his base to get elected, and then use that power for ends McConnell cares about.