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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on February 18, 2018, 12:51:35 AM
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In Switzerland.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/02/16/new-swiss-law-pain-free-deaths-lobsters-flushing-goldfish-down-toilet-breaking-law-according-new-swi/341412002/
It is now illegal in Switzerland to boil a lobster without first "humanely" killing it -- such as by electrocution, or sticking a knife into its brain.
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That means cats must have a daily visual contact with other felines, and hamsters or guinea pigs must be kept in pairs.
... So, that means that if you have a cat that HATES other cats, you have to piss it off once a day, every day?
And I haven't had hamsters or guinea pigs, but I have had lots of pet rats. Several times I've bought them in pairs as babies and raised them together. Which is fine, but I've also had one half of the pair die. So the first time that happened I thought "well, maybe he's lonely now, I'll get him a friend." and ended up buying a new pair of babies. Ended up with old rat in one cage and the new pair in another cage. Old rat hated the new ones. Which brings me to my point, what happens when one of the pair dies? Do you have to kill the other one? Or let it kill the new one? Or what?
Animals and guns. Two of those things that really should not be legislated by people who don't know *expletive deleted*it about what they are legislating.
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Animals and guns. Two of those things that really should not be legislated by people who don't know *expletive deleted*it about what they are legislating.
Morals and ethics. They don't know *expletive deleted*it about those two things, either.
But I'm sure the list is longer than just those four.
Terry
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I agree with not flushing live pets down toilets. Even gold fish. Flashback emotional support hamster lady WTF :facepalm: :mad:
Also, other than time savings, what is the advantage of boiling lobsters alive? I agree with humanely dispatching animals, and boiling alive ain't that. That is just common sense.
Regarding the "your pet must socialize daily with others of its kind"... and having "the constitutional right to be represented by lawyers in court"... that's where they start to go off the deep end.
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Lobsters should only be killed via lethal injection after 20 years of appeals. :facepalm:
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I'll go along with Blakenzy and buck the trend here. I hunt and I fish. I eat a lot of animals. I've never understood boiling live lobsters either. Whether they die quickly just before being dropped in the pot, or die slowly in the pot, I can't see that it makes any difference in the resulting food.
I see no reason to prolong the death of any living thing for no good reason, especially when not doing so is as easy as stabbing it in the brain.
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Regarding the "your pet must socialize daily with others of its kind"... and having "the constitutional right to be represented by lawyers in court"... that's where they start to go off the deep end.
What if Fido or Garfield are tranny pets, who think that inside, they're really human beings? Wouldn't forcing them to socialize with animals be cruel?
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Has anyone done a scientific study that proves stabbing a lobster in the brain is less painful/more humane that boiling alive?
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Has anyone done a scientific study that proves stabbing a lobster in the brain is less painful/more humane that boiling alive?
Yeah, that's what I want to know too. I don't think the brain would last that long or be conscious for very long once it hit boiling water. Stabbing it in the brain should be pretty instantaneous, as long as you stab the right part of the brain (and what is the right part of the brain in a lobster?)
The electrocution one I really question as being somehow more humane than boiling water, though. How fast is that? I would think that as being the least instantaneous.
I'm all for humane deaths for animals... I'm just not sure how humane this particular logic is. *shrug*
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I can see a lot of people slicing a finger off ( or worse ) trying to stab a lobster in the brain.
Do lobsters cooperate and hold still while your jabbing at it?
Did "ronco portable lobster electrocution company" pay for this study?
Maybe we can use this to introduce new pro gun laws in blue states , all lobsters must be humanely dispatched with a .22 before boiling.