Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: AZRedhawk44 on January 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
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http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/sheriffs-deputy-executes-unarmed-man-surrendering-hands-air-video/#axzz2rNGgULIk
Please do watch the full 5 minute nooz reel from CBS 5 on the page.
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In the video, the guy turns toward what I gather is his vehicle (where he supposedly was thought to have a gun), and then shots are fired at the same moment at which he raises his hands.
He may have turned his back to the shooter, but he was facing toward other officers.
I wouldn't claim to have enough evidence to say for sure, but it looks to me like it could very well be a good shoot.
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The video doesn't show the video of the time at the moment of the shooting. It freezes and then you hear the sounds of the shots.
I'd like to see the FULL video, poor as it is, from before the LL shots all the way till the body hits the ground.
The media is infamous for not telling the whole story or twisting the story to fit their narrative. (or even outright lying, but I don't see *that* in this case)
That said, if I had a guy who just got out of a stolen vehicle, just soaked up taser and beanbag rounds without being phased, claimed to have a gun, and then went back to that car, I'd shoot that guy before he had a chance to get the gun he claimed.
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Bad video and heavily edited. Hard to reach any real conclusion from that alone - especially with pausing it and shifting the audio track to exaggerate the time the arms were in the air.
In the first play through of the video (~0:10), the first shot is off before the guy's arms clear his shoulders. If accurate, I don't think the deputy could have registered "he's giving up" fast enough to stop his shot.
The second play through (~2:18) they have the sound muted and pause the video when the arms are at full extension, wait a second and then play the gunshots. If that version were accurate then it would be a much worse scenario.
Anyway, as I said, hard to reach any real conclusion (damning or exculpatory) from the video itself, however the witness who quotes the dead guy as having said "I've got a gun, the only way you're going to take is me is - you're going to have to shoot me," makes it sound a whole lot more like suicide by cop. The now dead guy was in an allegedly stolen car, took police on an hour long chase, proclaimed himself to be armed and that he was going to make the police shoot him. It seems that he decided at the very last minute to give up, but he hadn't exactly laid the groundwork for it.
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At least the cops got to go home at the end of their shift.
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He made a furtive motion
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He'll, just taking the cops on a chase nearly justifies deadly force to me. I think it would have to be a pretty clear bad shoot to convince me to convict.
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Sheriffs Deputy Executes Unarmed Man Surrendering with Hands in the Air
This is the headline of the link. Not really an impartial source of information.