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Tone-shaming
« on: December 28, 2015, 12:27:51 AM »
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 08:28:03 AM »

*shrug*

Lots of folks prefer emotions over reason.
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 10:49:58 AM »
Just curious, if somebody is angry, frustrated, or sad about something, does that validate their opinion about that particular topic, or does it make all their opinions correct?
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 10:55:54 AM »
Why would being angry, frustrated, or sad validate ones opinionanything?

Lots of things piss me off, that doesn't mean I have a valid or useful opinion on them.  Often it means the exact opposite, that my emotions have precluded me from looking at facts and forming any kind of useful opinion.  I know it's a micro-projection but I doubt the authors of that cartoon are any more successful at providing useful opinions about their passions.

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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 02:57:50 PM »
Why would being angry, frustrated, or sad validate ones opinionanything?
Because they are emotional and you cannot ignore them!
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 03:05:19 PM »
Just curious, if somebody is angry, frustrated, or sad about something, does that validate their opinion about that particular topic, or does it make all their opinions correct?

In fact, does the fact someone is angry, frustrated, or sad about something even validate their opinion about that particular topic -- or does it simply confirm that the person is angry, frustrated, or sad about something without in any way validating the cause of their anger, frustration, or sadness?
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 04:59:37 PM »
In fact, does the fact someone is angry, frustrated, or sad about something even validate their opinion about that particular topic -- or does it simply confirm that the person is angry, frustrated, or sad about something without in any way validating the cause of their anger, frustration, or sadness?

It doesn't validate or invalidate their opinion, it just means they care about the topic.  And when they get loud about it, it means I don't listen to them, even if was sympathetic to their cause before they started yelling at me.
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2015, 05:14:35 PM »
As was mentioned, everyone will get heated up over something they are passionate about. The difference I see between the SJWs and most of the rest of us is that, I, for instance, can get heated up over gun control and AGW. While I might initially emotionally blow off steam, I generally try to then step back and argue logically and hopefully with a bit more clear-headedness. SJWs start off emotional, and then go into emotional overdrive. I guess in an attempt to either bully people or wear them down.

Of course if you just walk away from someone like that, you lower your blood pressure and increase theirs. The worst thing we have done in recent years, especially on college campuses, is pat them on the head and pay attention to them. Which I guess means that I'm pro "marginalizing".

But really, how do we take these people seriously?

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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2015, 06:16:38 PM »
As soon as "shaming" is used in conversation I immediately do not take them seriously.
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2015, 06:54:45 PM »
As soon as "shaming" is used in conversation I immediately do not take them seriously.

There you go.

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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2015, 07:27:25 PM »
'cause you know, reason and calm discourse is a white patriarchy privilege thing.

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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2015, 07:44:08 PM »
Just curious, if somebody is angry, frustrated, or sad about something, does that validate their opinion about that particular topic, or does it make all their opinions correct?

You forget, it only works if the one being shamed has a SJW approved marginalized background and is promoting a SJW approved message.

Don't be mistaken, if one of us were to become agitated or upset during a conversation, they will be quick to use Tone Policing on us and then it's "okay".
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2015, 09:34:41 PM »
I thought this thread was going to be about the poor souls who play guitar on solid state amplifiers...
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2015, 09:38:11 PM »
I thought this thread was going to be about the poor souls who play guitar on solid state amplifiers...

Will someone please think of all the oppressed vacuum tubes?
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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2015, 10:12:02 PM »
'cause you know, reason and calm discourse is a white patriarchy privilege thing.

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Re: Tone-shaming
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2015, 12:38:11 AM »
Après Ferguson, the slogan is now "Being reasonable is for white people."  :facepalm:

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