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Is Edward Snowden a criminal, or a hero?

This guy is a true blue hero
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Criminal.  He violated his Top Secret clearance
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It's still Fistful's fault
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All 3
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #225 on: June 29, 2013, 01:27:06 PM »
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #226 on: June 29, 2013, 05:44:28 PM »
Quote from: cordex on June 29, 2013, 12:33:58 PM
Two reasons. It makes the US look incompetent, and whether he went into it working for them he likely has access to valuable information or knowledge of systems that could prove useful.

This.  They can make BHO & America look weak at no cost to themselves.
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #227 on: June 29, 2013, 05:58:32 PM »
Quote from: Roo_ster on June 29, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
This.  They can make BHO & America look weak at no cost to themselves.

Not like it's hard to do  ;)  :lol:
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #228 on: June 29, 2013, 09:20:43 PM »
Quote from: cordex on June 29, 2013, 12:33:58 PM
Two reasons. It makes the US look incompetent, and whether he went into it working for them he likely has access to valuable information or knowledge of systems that could prove useful.

So, they would employ him as a consultant......or an informant....
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #229 on: July 01, 2013, 12:09:41 AM »
Hero.

Govt d-baggery needs to be exposed at all levels.
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #230 on: July 04, 2013, 02:34:35 PM »
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #231 on: July 04, 2013, 02:44:30 PM »
I'd go to that special hell.
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #232 on: July 05, 2013, 09:13:22 AM »
Students Question the NSA at Recruiting Session

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Hell hath no wrath compared to the wrath of a sharp young lady with a well-tuned BS-detector.


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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #233 on: July 05, 2013, 09:20:33 AM »
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #234 on: July 05, 2013, 07:02:54 PM »
Quote from: Boomhauer on July 05, 2013, 09:20:33 AM
*Cough*Archer*cough*
Perhaps we haven't heard from Snowden because he's off the coast of Malaysia, living as a pirate king.
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #235 on: July 06, 2013, 03:50:52 AM »
Asylum has been offered by Venezuela and Nicaragua. Let's see who else offers a helping hand.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/06/snowden-fate-up-in-air-after-nicaragua-venezuela-say-theyre-willing-to-grant/


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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #236 on: July 07, 2013, 05:27:44 PM »
The US forced a plane carrying a South American politician to land so they could search for Snowden. This unsurprisingly backfired and now 3 other S American countries are offering him asylum.

Also, for the folks pointing out that Snowden allied himself with unsavory countries as evidence of his evil intent... What do you make of all the wweapons the US has given/sold to evil dictatorships or terrorist groups when we felt it served our national interests? By that logic the US selling guns to the Al Queda aligned Syrian rebels or the Islamic extremists in the Muslim Brotherhood are just as conclusive proof of how evil the .gov is right?
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #237 on: July 07, 2013, 05:54:30 PM »
Quote from: Balog on July 07, 2013, 05:27:44 PM
By that logic the US selling guns to the Al Queda aligned Syrian rebels or the Islamic extremists in the Muslim Brotherhood are just as conclusive proof of how evil the .gov is right?

They proved they were evil looooonnnnnnggggggg before that.
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #238 on: July 07, 2013, 06:05:33 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on July 07, 2013, 05:54:30 PM
They proved they were evil looooonnnnnnggggggg before that.

Right, but the default position of the folks calling for Snowden's head is that he deserves punishment for transgressing against the state so...
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #239 on: July 09, 2013, 05:52:13 PM »
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #240 on: July 09, 2013, 06:13:40 PM »
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"now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb" -Dark Helmet

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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #241 on: July 09, 2013, 06:26:06 PM »
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/ex-russian-spy-anna-chapman-proposes-marriage-edward-171009157.html


I'd jump on that if I were him.   =)

Does Rooshia have resident priviledges for spouses of its citizens  ???
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #242 on: July 09, 2013, 06:56:17 PM »
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #243 on: July 09, 2013, 07:01:42 PM »
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #244 on: July 11, 2013, 12:35:35 AM »
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #245 on: July 11, 2013, 05:33:25 AM »
Quote from: seeker_two on July 11, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
If that's a dude, I might just be gay.....
but do you look FABULOUS?
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #246 on: July 11, 2013, 09:53:19 AM »
Quote from: seeker_two on July 11, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
If that's a dude, I might just be gay.....



Maybe.....



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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #247 on: July 11, 2013, 02:12:23 PM »
Quote from: lupinus on July 11, 2013, 05:33:25 AM
but do you look FABULOUS?

I always look fabulous....good genes, I guess...  :cool:
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #248 on: July 11, 2013, 03:31:28 PM »
She is a doppelganger for Kaylee. (Jewel Staite)
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Re: Snowden: Hero or Criminal?
« Reply #249 on: July 11, 2013, 04:13:49 PM »
If he does get asylum granted by some banana republic, I wonder what his chances are of actually arriving without an intercept and divert courtesy of USAF, USN, or a NATO ally?
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