Author Topic: So I Went To Install The Fireplace... (Read 3786 times)

Leatherneck · « **on:** March 01, 2009, 05:17:57 PM »

in the "addition." Jose was on-site finishing the neighbor's addition job I got him and he and his helper helped me carry it down from the shop. It's a rather large propane direct-vent type and I had planned to install it against the wall in the garden room (12' x 20') on a side wall between floor-to-ceiling windows already finished, then build some type of enclosure around it depending on SWMBO's taste at the time.

Her reaction? "It sticks out into the room too far."

Thud.

Now I have to cut into a completely finished wall--inside and outside-- and add an addition to the addition. Everything, from footers, block foundation, stud wall and roof extension. Drywall inside to be finished, wiring to be moved, gas pipe to be moved.

And at the end, I'll have created an addition of--get this-- TEN SQUARE FEET! Aargh!

TC

RocketMan · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2009, 05:22:39 PM »

I feel your pain, Leatherneck. Our ladies are not called SWMBO for nothing.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2009, 06:18:20 PM »

Take the pants away from her, put them on, and put your foot down.

You got somewhere to sleep for the next few days?

jackdanson · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:15:23 PM »

Meh, I'm guessing it's 2x5 feet? does it really stick out that far? 12'x20' is a pretty big room.

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Now I have to cut into a completely finished wall--inside and outside-- and add an addition to the addition. Everything, from footers, block foundation, stud wall and roof extension. Drywall inside to be finished, wiring to be moved, gas pipe to be moved.

Screw that, that is a lot of work there, how are you going to move the wiring? You'd almost just have to run new wire. ( I guess you could splice it in a box, but that's kind of ghetto) The problem was talking to her about it before installing it. Next time don't discuss, just do it!!

The real question is "What is a bigger hassle, the extra work or listening to the woman complain about it?"!

Strings · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:27:17 PM »

Q:How can you tell a woman is complaining?

A: Her lips are moving.

*ducks for cover*

BridgeRunner · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:38:01 PM »

Quote from: Strings on March 01, 2009, 07:27:17 PM

Q:How can you tell a woman is complaining?

A: Her lips are moving.

*ducks for cover*

If a woman cannot manage to augment that with non-verbal complaints, she isn't trying hard enough. There's really no way to measure exactly when you guys are falling short. Just assume at all times that we are not happy.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:30:02 PM »

dog at the back door barking wife at the front door pounding which one do you let in first. and why?

Nitrogen · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:32:05 PM »

I handled a similar situation with my wife thusly:

"If you want it changed, you can pay for it."

Standing Wolf · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:41:45 PM »

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Our ladies are not called SWMBO for nothing.

My ex-wife said it was her or the guns. That was in 1980. I still have the guns.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:47:33 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 01, 2009, 08:30:02 PM

dog at the back door barking wife at the front door pounding which one do you let in first. and why?

The dog of course. the dog will be glad to see you and stop barking.

jackdanson · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:18:37 PM »

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The dog of course. the dog will be glad to see you and stop barking.

It'll lick your face too.

Doggy Daddy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:27:51 PM »

Great. Just great.

Thanks, guys.

When my wife hears me laughing while I'm reading, she "asks" me to read whatever was funny out loud.
Now I'm in trouble for what you guys said.

And a big, special "thanks" to you, C&SDaddy!

PTK · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2009, 11:31:03 PM »

Quote from: Standing Wolf on March 01, 2009, 08:41:45 PM

My ex-wife said it was her or the guns. That was in 1980. I still have the guns.

You're my hero more every day.

Strings · « **Reply #13 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:29:23 AM »

Bridgewalker: can I marry you?

Leatherneck · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:31:39 AM »

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The real question is "What is a bigger hassle, the extra work or listening to the woman complain about it?"!

Perzackly. It'll get done.I'm just gobsmacked by how much work it will take for a 43" x 25" bump-out.

TC

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 02, 2009, 06:51:01 AM »

can you get away with building some kinda surround on the interior? a builtin bookcase or entertainment center? or even a stone hearth? to give the illusion its more flush with wall?

Regolith · « **Reply #16 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:28:55 AM »

Remember: It is always better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission.

Firethorn · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2009, 02:21:38 PM »

Quote from: jackdanson on March 01, 2009, 09:18:37 PM

It'll lick your face too.

And happily follow you as you jump the fence and head for the woods...

Leatherneck · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2009, 04:46:50 PM »

My original plan was to build a fireplace surround with raised hearth, but she insists that it will encroach too far into her planned living area. She pictures room layouts with certain articles of furniture, but not from plans (which would be easy to modify on paper) or even until the room is trimmed out. At which time, of course, any modification requires demo and ground-up construction on my part. If I actually react hard and fast at the first mention of such rework, she'll back off, generally with grace. Or at least minimal griping.

So I've got the plan drawn and all I have to do is index the outside location to the inside and start digging. And mixing. And pouring. And blocking. And framing. And siding. And roofing. And electric-moving. And, well, you get the idea.

TC

Matthew Carberry · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2009, 04:50:25 PM »

You can't just cantilever it out off of the floor joists?

Balog · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2009, 04:56:35 PM »

Wow, where's the whipped smilie? I have a fairly low tolerance for having stupid and/or pointless work created for me. Just do it the original way and let her get over it.

Leatherneck · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:01:02 PM »

Hmm. Hadn't thought of that. The joists are oriented right.

Her one concern (with my plan to side it identically with the house, i.e.,hardy plank painted gray) has been that it not look "like a tract house chimney." Therefore, a river rock facing is necessary. The woman has good taste, I've got to admit. Maybe I could get her to put me on an hourly wage?

TC

Leatherneck · « **Reply #22 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:02:42 PM »

Balog, I hear you. But I do love her and want to make her happy. I guess I'm just dragging my cross around a bit here...

TC

Balog · « **Reply #23 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:06:39 PM »

Leather: I meant to put a

in there, so don't think I was being mean.

I too love my wife and want to make her happy. She just happens to really love me and wants to make me happy. Hence she's pretty reasonable about asking for that sort of thing.

Matthew Carberry · « **Reply #24 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:11:16 PM »

Quote from: Leatherneck on March 02, 2009, 05:01:02 PM

Hmm. Hadn't thought of that. The joists are oriented right.

Her one concern (with my plan to side it identically with the house, i.e.,hardy plank painted gray) has been that it not look "like a tract house chimney." Therefore, a river rock facing is necessary. The woman has good taste, I've got to admit. Maybe I could get her to put me on an hourly wage?

TC

It's a lot easier to cantilever than to do dirt work. Having the joists oriented right is a bonus and reduces the cutting required in the crawlspace.

Putting rock on it will make it look Colonial.

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