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Politics / Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Last post by Angel Eyes on Today at 04:20:40 PM »Then I guess the NG needs more marksmanship training.
Not a terrible outcome. His medical bills won't be our problem.
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Not a terrible outcome. His medical bills won't be our problem.
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Politics / Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Last post by Hawkmoon on Today at 04:10:41 PM »From the Post Millennial:
Illegal immigrant stabs two others, flees back into Mexico after being shot by National Guardsman
Headline kinda says it all. I guess the National Guard has ammo after all.
Then I guess the NG needs more marksmanship training.
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Politics / Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Last post by Angel Eyes on Today at 03:43:55 PM »I could see a Black Hawk Down result from a Clear and Present Danger mission ...
... which makes me wonder how much anti-air capability the cartels have.
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The Roundtable / Re: The wealthy are building high-end panic rooms...
« Last post by Tuco on Today at 03:34:30 PM »Quote
the room just turns into the place you starve or suffocate when they kill the power to the house or burn it down.So instead of Dom Perignon it should be stocked with bourbon and quaaludes?
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Politics / Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Last post by cordex on Today at 03:26:11 PM »(yes, Clear and Present Danger is what I meant but my fingers typed something else for ... uh ... some reason ...)I could see a Black Hawk Down result from a Clear and Present Danger mission ...
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Politics / Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Last post by Angel Eyes on Today at 02:55:53 PM »Is actually the plot to Clear and Present Danger, by Tom Clancy. He ahd us doing it in Columbia rather than Mexico, but otherwise pretty spot on.
... which proves Angel Eyes should not post anything until he's fully awake.
(yes, Clear and Present Danger is what I meant but my fingers typed something else for ... uh ... some reason ...)
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by Ben on Today at 02:48:39 PM »
All of the terrorism apologists are going to go out of their minds over how cruel and ruthless Israel is."
As Israel continues to drop leaflets, send warnings, and delay attacks to give "civilians" a chance to get to a safe zone. In quotes, because I truly wonder just how many of them are "innocent civilians". While I'm sure many have no choice, it also seems many "civilians" happily work as Hamas shields.
The Gaza strip is composed of a population with which even the surrounding countries, who are culturally similar, want nothing to do with.
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The Roundtable / Re: The wealthy are building high-end panic rooms...
« Last post by Hawkmoon on Today at 02:19:47 PM »The ultra wealthy would be better off dropping that money on sentry turrets and clear fields of fire in their landscaping.
Can I get an Amen to that?
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The Roundtable / Re: The wealthy are building high-end panic rooms...
« Last post by dogmush on Today at 02:17:06 PM »So here's the thing about panic rooms:
When the DOD builds an Arms Room, or SCIF, or Vault, we rate it in Man/minutes it takes to get in. If it'll take a 4 person team 15 minutes to breech, than that vault is rated at 60 Man/minutes to breech. The implicit assumption is that given enough time anything can be opened, and the vault is just there to slow the thieves down long enough for whomever the IDS [alarm] called to get there.
Same holds true for Panic Rooms. They are there to keep you safe until the folks you called (probably police) show up and handle the intruders. If we are at the part of civil unrest that gangs are breaking into the estates of the super wealthy and trying to breech panic rooms; the cops ain't coming. (in many big cities the cops might be the ones outside the Panic Room). So the room just turns into the place you starve or suffocate when they kill the power to the house or burn it down.
The ultra wealthy would be better off dropping that money on sentry turrets and clear fields of fire in their landscaping.
When the DOD builds an Arms Room, or SCIF, or Vault, we rate it in Man/minutes it takes to get in. If it'll take a 4 person team 15 minutes to breech, than that vault is rated at 60 Man/minutes to breech. The implicit assumption is that given enough time anything can be opened, and the vault is just there to slow the thieves down long enough for whomever the IDS [alarm] called to get there.
Same holds true for Panic Rooms. They are there to keep you safe until the folks you called (probably police) show up and handle the intruders. If we are at the part of civil unrest that gangs are breaking into the estates of the super wealthy and trying to breech panic rooms; the cops ain't coming. (in many big cities the cops might be the ones outside the Panic Room). So the room just turns into the place you starve or suffocate when they kill the power to the house or burn it down.
The ultra wealthy would be better off dropping that money on sentry turrets and clear fields of fire in their landscaping.