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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2013, 02:27:52 PM »
Keep digging.  Obama doubles down on the stupid.  Dollars to donuts it comes out that they are listening to phone calls, not just looking at phone records.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2531400
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2013, 02:43:18 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on June 07, 2013, 02:27:52 PM
Keep digging.  Obama doubles down on the stupid.  Dollars to donuts it comes out that they are listening to phone calls, not just looking at phone records.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2531400

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“If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here.”

BWHAHAHAHA

Maybe, just maybe, we'd have some modicum of trust if the feds actually were abiding by the constitution, following due process or adhering to the rule of law.  What a joke.  "No, really!  We have your best interests in mind, trust us!"

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Obama explained that it the appropriate checks and balances were in place to make sure that executive programs were not abused.

I'm curious how the whole program itself is not abuse - does the forth amendment not protect against unreasonable search - search without probable cause.
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2013, 06:52:31 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2013, 07:10:52 PM »
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2013, 07:17:41 PM »
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2013, 08:29:55 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on June 07, 2013, 07:17:41 PM
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/justice-department-electronic-frontier-foundation-fisa-court-opinion

proof we need to burn it all and start over from scratch.



They look to me like traitors.  COTUS makes provision for it and there are any number of traditional remedies for those so afflicted.
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2013, 09:16:11 PM »
Like someone else had said I think if we can get at least 10 percent of all cell users to load their conversations with key words we could probable blow up the key word sifting computers.
20 million people saying jihad at once should do the trick,
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2013, 09:59:13 PM »
Zuckerburg/Facebook deny it happens there:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304289-zuckerberg-facebook-did-not-give-us-access-to-servers

I call bull on that one.

Facebook is a government security analyst's wet dream come to life.  Everybody self-documenting all their personal associations onto one server network?  Keeping conversations inside that network?  Datamining your out-of-network emails for existing in-network contacts and matching them up, building relationship webs, VOLUNTARILY?

That *expletive deleted*it was designed by either the CIA or the NSA.
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2013, 10:57:21 PM »
I believe Facebook when they say they didn't give the gov access to their servers

Reason?

Because they don't need to. People accept friends requests from *expletive deleted*ing ANYBODY, and gov agencies have fake accounts they use for analysts to do all kinds of data mining

People also tend to leave their facebooks wide open
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2013, 11:52:05 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2013, 12:11:16 PM »

Yep. NSA folks remembered me. Got a lovely reception.   :)

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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2013, 12:09:28 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/attorney-general-under-pressure-open-more-leak-inquiries-003959397.html

NSA asks DoJ to look for investigate leakers.  Couldn't they just check the phone records of who called The Guardian ?
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2013, 01:57:04 PM »
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2013, 03:50:04 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on June 07, 2013, 09:59:13 PM
Facebook is a government security analyst's wet dream come to life.  Everybody self-documenting all their personal associations onto one server network?  Keeping conversations inside that network?  Datamining your out-of-network emails for existing in-network contacts and matching them up, building relationship webs, VOLUNTARILY?

That *expletive deleted* was designed by either the CIA or the NSA.

This is exactly why I am very reluctant to sign on to the Book of Face. 

I've seen rumors (albeit from a source given to much conspiracy speculation) that the CIA provided early funding.
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« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2013, 04:05:12 PM »
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2013, 05:25:15 PM »
Quote from: lee n. field on June 09, 2013, 03:50:04 PM
This is exactly why I am very reluctant to sign on to the Book of Face. 

I've seen rumors (albeit from a source given to much conspiracy speculation) that the CIA provided early funding.

I'm pretty much of a recluse in real life - why would I want to smear myself all over the webz  ???   ;/

APS is my only online hangout anymore.  If they ever start tracking people down for bad puns, I'm toast.  :police:
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2013, 05:32:41 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on June 09, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
APS is my only online hangout anymore.  If they ever start tracking people down for bad puns, I'm toast.  :police:

In your case, they would pretty much be obligated to hand out the ultimate punishment.
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2013, 05:47:16 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on June 09, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
I'm pretty much of a recluse in real life - why would I want to smear myself all over the webz  ???   ;/

APS is my only online hangout anymore.  If they ever start tracking people down for bad puns, I'm toast.  :police:

Don't worry, Nick and the other IT goons are jamming the watcher's efforts to smoke you out.


And now of course we'll prosecute the guy who leaked it.
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2013, 07:00:43 PM »
This just in from the NSA.



America is paying to much for long distance.
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Re: NSA seizes/monitor all Verizon customers.
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2013, 07:42:36 PM »
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This just in from the NSA.



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