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Fun new game
« on: June 16, 2013, 04:59:51 PM »
Some maroon at Daily Kos (well they are pretty much all maroons) published the article below:

So here's your challenge.  Pick a number between 1 and 75 and refute his assertion using only (gasp) logic and reason.

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Go!!!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

« Last Edit: June 16, 2013, 07:33:36 PM by scout26 »
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2013, 05:09:19 PM »
The snark level was only overwelmed by the stupid level.
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2013, 06:00:14 PM »
So anything the govt does is socialism. What a brilliant analysis.

Just to pick law enforcement, at random; it's either a socialist program to help the little guy, or a reactionary institution used to enforce bourgeois values, or a tool of white supremacy to terrorize brown people. Whatever the left needs it to be to "win" the argument of the day.
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 06:11:02 PM »
So anything the govt does is socialism. What a brilliant analysis.

Just to pick law enforcement, at random; it's either a socialist program to help the little guy, or a reactionary institution used to enforce bourgeois values, or a tool of white supremacy to terrorize brown people. Whatever the left needs it to be to "win" the argument of the day.

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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2013, 06:07:55 AM »
I'm scared. 
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2013, 07:09:15 AM »
I'm scared. 
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2013, 07:46:48 AM »
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The IRS is the reason that we have anything.

The IRS creates all the wealth that socialism distributes to EVERYBODY.  What more needs to be said?
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2013, 08:06:20 AM »
Jonas Salk giving the vaccine away for free is not socialism.
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2013, 09:11:00 AM »
40. Swine Flu Vaccine -  Do you have swine flu right now? Then thank government and the socialist structure.

I've never been trampled by a herd of bison, either, so I suppose I should thank government and the socialist structure that employed buffalo hunters in the 19th Century for my safety today from stampedes . . .

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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2013, 11:16:44 AM »
A false dichotomy that commonly arises when someone argues for a more active role for government. Just claim that the opposition, by trying to keep government in its place, is really opposed to any government at all.
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2013, 02:03:10 PM »
*raises hand*

No one has yet commented that in addition to that list not demonstrating socialism, plenty of us would be happy to see a considerable portion of that list scrapped anyway?
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2013, 11:46:25 AM »
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14. FBI - The Federal bureau of investigations is a taxpayer funded government agency.


Government snipers shooting nursing women is taxpayer funded socialism.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2013, 11:48:29 AM »
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20. Public Schools - Can't afford to send your children to an expensive private school? Thanks to socialism and government, you child can still get an education. Public education has been under attack for decades in this country by the radical right because public schools don't teach Christianity to your children and it enables people like Barack Obama to work hard, gain scholarships, and eventually become President of the United States.


Public schools are internement camps where kids are sent away for 12 years to learn no useful or emploayble skills but instead have their heads filled with pro-socialist propaganda.
Obama has never worked hard a day in his life.
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2013, 11:50:09 AM »
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22. Corporate/Business Subsidies - This is the type of socialism that is acceptable in the Republican party. You tax dollars are given to big corporations to do things they should be doing anyway out of morals and ethics. Like not sending jobs overseas and hiring people. Wouldn't you like a nice big check just for not breaking the law? To be fair though, many businesses do earn their subsidies by advancing green technology and practice, donating to charity, helping communities, etc. They aren't all bad. People just get mad when big billionaire oil companies get billions of their taxpayer dollars while they're paying $4 at the pump. For the corporations that don't earn their subsidies other than donating to their very own political party, it's merely welfare. Though however you look at it, it is socialism.


Corporate subsidies is corruption at best and  fascism at worst, which is simple a different wing of socialism.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2013, 11:51:50 AM »
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43. Corporate Bailouts/Welfare - The whole point of this post is to prove that we ALL use, benefit from, and like socialism. This example is a form of socialism that the republicans not only like, but fight tooth and nail for. They don't like it when socialism is used for working/poor people, but when it's for millionaires and their corporate donors, socialism becomes as American as apple pie. The middle/working class who are the majority of taxpayers pay for welfare for corporations and people who have more money than all of us combined. When our government bails out a bank or gives a subsidy to a billion dollar corporation, you are paying for it.


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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2013, 12:23:28 PM »
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44. State Construction - Ever see those construction workers in your town fixing potholes, erecting buildings, repaving highways and roads, and fixing things all over town? They themselves and the work they do is taxpayer-funded state socialism.
Does that include the ones whose only job seems to be leaning on shovels? How about the union reps, who basically do nothing? And while roads and bridges have uses . . . we'd be better off without many (note that I didn't write all) of the buildings housing bureaucrats.

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46. City/Metro Buses - If you lack transportation, you can catch a city bus. Taxpayer funds and the fee you pay to take the bus make it possible for millions of people to go to work.
Solution here is to make the fare sufficient to cover the cost of service.

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49. PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) - PBS operates on donations and government funding. The provide non-partisan news and information to the public. They are the home of Sesame Street, Masterpiece Theater, and The Antiques Roadshow. Surveys show that they are literally the most trusted name in news. I wonder how Fox feels about that?

57. NPR - National Public Radio operates on private and federal funding along with public donations. NPR has been one of the most trusted news sources in America for over 40 years.
I could live very well without either one of these . . . if they truly have value, they'll have no problem operating in the commercial realm. And the "trust" surveys are questionable at best.
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2013, 12:29:31 PM »
Didn't the Nazi government also do a lot of those things?   =D
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Re: Fun new game
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2013, 01:16:37 PM »
Didn't the Nazi government also do a lot of those things?   =D

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Well, the Nazis were National Socialists............................ >:D
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