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Premises
« on: July 20, 2015, 09:44:41 PM »
Mentioned my admiration for Silent Cal today in an off hand comment at work.  Another guy more or less launched into me that somehow Coolidge was primarily responsible for the Great Depression, and the FDR "saved" the country from Conservative disaster.  Deregulation being the worst of all possible sins.

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Had to shut off the debate because I could tell it wasn't ever going to go anywhere, and I really didn't want to get in trouble with HR.  His premises are just so different from mine that changing of minds was not going to happen.
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Re: Premises
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 10:03:05 PM »
Hell, I realized I was confusing him with Taft.  I thought most used to blame Hoover. 
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Re: Premises
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 10:24:50 PM »
He thought Hoover was an improvement over Coolidge.  He's obviously enamored with Keynesian economics. 

'Course this also the guy that wanted the fed.gov to forcibly shut down all health insurance companies and institute "single payer" "healthcare" since it works so well elsewhere.
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Re: Premises
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2015, 11:26:05 PM »

'Course this also the guy that wanted the fed.gov to forcibly shut down all health insurance companies and institute "single payer" "healthcare" since it works so well elsewhere.

The simple answer to that is two letters:  "VA".
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Re: Premises
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 11:50:59 AM »
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His premises are just so different from mine that changing of minds was not going to happen.

The interwebz enables us to choose our own bubble.  It's jarring to encounter the "differently epistemologized".
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Re: Premises
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 02:59:19 PM »
Cal is my ideal for an American President.

"When you see ten problems rolling down the road, if you don't do anything, nine of them will roll into a ditch before they get to you."
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"It is more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones"
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"They criticize me for harping on the obvious; if all the folks in the United States would do the few simple things they know they ought to do, most of our big problems would take care of themselves."
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Re: Premises
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2015, 01:25:28 AM »
His was also the last administration that meaningfully reduced the size and scope of the fed.gov.  I don't count reduction in the fed.gov after things like WWII since wars are special cases of massive increases in spending during the conflict followed by massive reductions in spending when it's over.

He cut federal taxes too.  And was still able to pay off about 25% of the national debt in the 6 years or so that he served as POTUS.
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