Author Topic: Greenwood IN Mall shooting (Read 7642 times)

WLJ · « **Reply #25 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:10:36 PM »

Sig M400 purchased in March
M&P15 found in bathroom where his backpack was found.
Glock 33

Only weapon used was the M400

WLJ · « **Reply #26 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:12:33 PM »

20 year old
Jonathan Douglas Sapirman
Had a juvenile record but no adult record
Enters the mall and goes straight to the food court restroom at 4:55
1 hour 2 minutes later exits the restroom and starts shooting

WLJ · « **Reply #27 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:20:19 PM »

"The shooter was carrying "legally" under the constitutional carry law."

WLJ · « **Reply #28 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:25:19 PM »

Cell phone found in toilet

WLJ · « **Reply #29 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:31:02 PM »

Laptop was found in his still running apartment oven along with a can of butane.
He had received an eviction notice.

WLJ · « **Reply #30 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:36:38 PM »

Shooter is white
And I'll have to go back and hear the names again but I think all the victims had Hispanic names. So guess what the MSM narrative will probably be.

WLJ · « **Reply #31 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:41:37 PM »

Good Samaritan used a 9mm. Don't recall hearing make/model
Shooter fired 24 rounds
GS 10

WLJ · « **Reply #32 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:52:25 PM »

mode on
Right after the dems raise a stink over under 21 persons being able to buy "assault" weapons we get 3 highly publicized shooting by under 21 persons using an "assault" weapon"

mode off

WLJ · « **Reply #33 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:55:18 PM »

Shooter walked to the mall.

WLJ · « **Reply #34 on:** July 18, 2022, 02:59:04 PM »

They're trying to see if data can be extracted from the laptop and cellphone. FBI has both.

WLJ · « **Reply #35 on:** July 18, 2022, 03:03:01 PM »

Photo of the now room temperature POS at link

https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/greenwood-park-mall-shooting-what-we-know-so-far/

Ben · « **Reply #36 on:** July 18, 2022, 03:11:54 PM »

They are certainly working overtime to make the good guy the bad guy:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/07/18/if-we-didnt-know-any-better-we-might-think-shannon-watts-was-disappointed-more-people-werent-murdered-in-greenwood-mall-shooting/

Best comment:

Quote

One civilian with a gun was more effective than 400 cops with guns, and this is the lunacy that spews forth from this woman's brain.

230RN · « **Reply #37 on:** July 18, 2022, 03:25:22 PM »

Quote from: Bogie on July 18, 2022, 12:13:43 AM

I remember one of the times the mall I was in doing Santa had a protest go through it to "shut it down."

Gigglesnort.

So, there I am in the back of a shoe store, in the back room, because Santa is a magnet for the loonies, and one of the folks from the shoe store asks about what they should do if the "peaceful protesters" break the glass doors and come in.

"You guys go out the back door into the passages, head for your cars. I'll hold this door closed."

They looked at me like I was insane.

There were a few implements in that break room/closet that would have been quite useful. I did not elaborate.

I've recommended several times to head for a store and get out the back way since there's always at least a corridor to the loading docks and the outdoors.

Terry, 230RN

MillCreek · « **Reply #38 on:** July 18, 2022, 04:46:50 PM »

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/16/neo-nazi-white-supremacist-teenagers-00045589

I wonder just how much crossover there is between young men that go on a shooting spree versus joining neo-Nazi organizations.

cordex · « **Reply #39 on:** July 18, 2022, 04:56:03 PM »

Quote from: MillCreek on July 18, 2022, 04:46:50 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/16/neo-nazi-white-supremacist-teenagers-00045589

I wonder just how much crossover there is between young men that go on a shooting spree versus joining neo-Nazi organizations.

What kind of crossover are you hypothesizing? Shared demographics or individuals who do both?

MillCreek · « **Reply #40 on:** July 18, 2022, 05:10:05 PM »

Quote from: cordex on July 18, 2022, 04:56:03 PM

What kind of crossover are you hypothesizing? Shared demographics or individuals who do both?

Factors in common. Are there demographic, environmental, cultural, or other factors that are found in young men who go on shooting sprees or join violent political groups (left or right). I am sure that people who study recruitment into terrorist groups, for example, know this. Here in the US, for example, you probably don't have the religious or cultural aspects that inspire young men to plant an IED on a Middle Eastern street.

cordex · « **Reply #41 on:** July 18, 2022, 05:11:58 PM »

Quote from: MillCreek on July 18, 2022, 05:10:05 PM

Factors in common. Are there demographic, environmental, cultural, or other factors that are found in young men who go on shooting sprees or join violent political groups (left or right). I am sure that people who study recruitment into terrorist groups, for example, know this.

I could buy that.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #42 on:** July 18, 2022, 06:24:55 PM »

https://babylonbee.com/news/uvalde-police-criticize-indiana-mall-armed-citizen-for-not-waiting-around-outside-for-an-hour

WLJ · « **Reply #43 on:** July 18, 2022, 06:27:08 PM »

Ouch!

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #44 on:** July 18, 2022, 09:14:27 PM »

Quote from: Jim147 on July 18, 2022, 12:47:24 PM

And remember the good guy with a gun is just a myth.

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2022/07/18/yet-another-good-guy-with-gun-story-this-time-in-missouri-n597036

A 3-store crime spree. All places I pass by regularly. The first one is right outside what my wife and I call the man mall: Bass Pro, 5.11, Duluth Trading, and a place that sells Carhartt and Liberty safes. I guess at 3 am, none of their customers will be in the area, so that doesn't matter.

cordex · « **Reply #45 on:** July 18, 2022, 09:59:33 PM »

Over the cop grapevine I heard that the good guy put three rounds into the bad guy from 40 yards with a G19 supported on a trash can. Two torso hits and a headshot.

Where exactly that falls in the 10 rounds he is alleged to have expended I don’t know.

K Frame · « **Reply #46 on:** July 19, 2022, 01:37:38 PM »

According to this article from Fox, gun control advocates are losing their *expletive deleted*it that the guy who killed the shooter is being called a good samaritan.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-control-advocates-stunned-man-allegedly-shot-indiana-mall-shooter-labeled-good-samaritan

Pathetic losers. Their only desire, in my opinion, is to have as many dead defenseless individuals as possible as a means of furthering their agenda.

More slaughtered women, children, nuns? GOOD!

Dead gunman killed by a legally armed citizen striving to save lives? TRAVESTY! HORROR! HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED!

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #47 on:** July 19, 2022, 02:17:51 PM »

Quote from: K Frame on July 19, 2022, 01:37:38 PM

According to this article from Fox, gun control advocates are losing their *expletive deleted*it that the guy who killed the shooter is being called a good samaritan.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-control-advocates-stunned-man-allegedly-shot-indiana-mall-shooter-labeled-good-samaritan

Pathetic losers. Their only desire, in my opinion, is to have as many dead defenseless individuals as possible as a means of furthering their agenda.

More slaughtered women, children, nuns? GOOD!

Dead gunman killed by a legally armed citizen striving to save lives? TRAVESTY! HORROR! HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED!

HE. BROKE. MALL. POLICY. Our democracy is at risk.

Boomhauer · « **Reply #48 on:** July 19, 2022, 02:47:32 PM »

Quote from: Perd Hapley on July 19, 2022, 02:17:51 PM

HE. BROKE. MALL. POLICY. Our democracy is at risk.

They should put his ignoring the signs on his PERMANENT RECORD

WLJ · « **Reply #49 on:** July 19, 2022, 04:46:49 PM »

Schiff will soon be saying he has evidence linking him to Jan 6

News:

Author Topic: Greenwood IN Mall shooting (Read 7642 times)