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Title: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Lennyjoe on February 22, 2024, 09:05:51 AM
Looks like cell services are down across the country this morning, depending on your provider.  Made sure to establish comms with my family for awareness. 

Question is, is this a dry run or technology issue?  Will find out soon enough but it definitely reminded me to go over our comm out procedures and remind the girls on what to do/ how to respond if it’s a drawn out problem.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Ben on February 22, 2024, 09:09:23 AM
I mean, Occom's Razor puts it at a technical glitch, but I admit that when I put on my tinfoil as I read about it, I was thinking that it happening at zero dark thirty for most of the country would be a good timeframe for a government testing its ability to shut down civilian comms.  =)
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 22, 2024, 09:28:00 AM
Your avg teenager right now after not being able to text for 10 minutes: My life is over!
Meanwhile: Found the problem

(https://i.imgflip.com/32u3k1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 22, 2024, 09:30:16 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2pb90r.jpg)
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 22, 2024, 10:09:32 AM
My Verizon service has been okay.  I heard someone comment about AT&T.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Brad Johnson on February 22, 2024, 10:14:57 AM
I heard someone comment about AT&T.

Looks like AT&T is the locus. Just ran across mention of solar activity as the culprit. Anyone see info to support that?

Brad
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: 230RN on February 22, 2024, 10:16:20 AM
146.52
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: MillCreek on February 22, 2024, 10:17:02 AM
I just checked and our Verizon signals are up and running.  The Net tells me AT&T is having issues.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Ben on February 22, 2024, 10:31:26 AM
Looks like AT&T is the locus. Just ran across mention of solar activity as the culprit. Anyone see info to support that?

Brad

Seems like if it was space weather, it would have hit others besides AT&T, as well as other tech.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 22, 2024, 10:42:14 AM
This is what happens when you let fascists kill the net neutrality.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: RocketMan on February 22, 2024, 10:49:19 AM
We're impacted by this outage in Hickory, NC.  We have Consumer Cellular, and their service piggybacks on AT&T from what I know.  Can't make outgoing calls on the cell network at this point.  It should work with WiFi calling, but I haven't tested it as yet.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 22, 2024, 10:51:59 AM
Flare warning and a pair of X-Ray spikes last night but not sure if it was strong enough to cause this. The ejecta is forecasted to have a possible glancing effect the 25th

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/21-22-feb-r3-events

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/Screenshot_2024-02-22_104747.png)
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Nick1911 on February 22, 2024, 11:08:37 AM
I won't call this one enemy action yet.

It's far more likely this is some intersection of buggy equipment, a natural event, and generally crumbling infrastructure.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: RocketMan on February 22, 2024, 11:16:47 AM
I won't call this one enemy action yet.

It's far more likely this is some intersection of buggy equipment, a natural event, and generally crumbling infrastructure.

I'm betting someone screwed up a system software update.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 22, 2024, 11:18:53 AM
I'm betting someone screwed up a system software update.

Yep
Or downloaded a virus laden video off Chinese Facebook aka TikTok
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: K Frame on February 22, 2024, 12:13:54 PM
I PUSHED THE RED BUTTON!

I'M SORRY!

JEESH!
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Ben on February 22, 2024, 12:39:34 PM
Flare warning and X-Ray spike last night but not sure if it was strong enough to cause this.

I'm still thinking not space weather, as I haven't heard anything about GPS or comms sats being affected. If there's anything out there about that, a solar event would be a likely source. GPS is generally more sensitive to it than earth based cell towers.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Jim147 on February 22, 2024, 01:59:31 PM
I would be worried it is a prelude to invasion but we have been getting invaded for over three years.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: RocketMan on February 22, 2024, 02:44:40 PM
Cell service is back up in my neck of the woods.  Not sure when it came back online.  The tire shop was able to call me earlier when my Yeep was ready.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 22, 2024, 04:08:18 PM
Cell service is back up in my neck of the woods.  Not sure when it came back online.  The tire shop was able to call me earlier when my Yeep was ready.
I was okay, but a guy I sent a text message to early in the morning called me about 1 PM to ask me about it. 
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: HankB on February 22, 2024, 05:43:16 PM
I've got Tracfone and have had no issues. Maybe it's aliens who are taking down our communications alphabetically . . .
. . .  It's far more likely this is some intersection of buggy equipment, a natural event, and generally crumbling infrastructure.
I was talking to an AT&T tech a few days ago who was out to fix my POTS service. He said in about 2 years AT&T will be discontinuing traditional landline telephone service entirely - EVERYTHING will be either VOIP or cell. They're already curtailing service and maintenance, but doing so very quietly.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 22, 2024, 08:59:19 PM
I PUSHED THE RED BUTTON!

I'M SORRY!

JEESH!

We knew it had to be you, 'cause RKL retired from _ _ & _ a while back.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: zxcvbob on February 22, 2024, 09:14:19 PM
I PUSHED THE RED BUTTON!

I'M SORRY!

JEESH!

https://youtu.be/MlrCMK14zHs?si=X4oziU_IJx8FCpOd&t=10  (I assume that's the reference you were going for)  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 23, 2024, 01:53:17 AM
https://youtu.be/MlrCMK14zHs?si=X4oziU_IJx8FCpOd&t=10  (I assume that's the reference you were going for)  :laugh:

I was thinking of this one.

https://youtube.com/shorts/FHy8kW632dE?si=zY2CfCRKh3yK2Rqb
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: K Frame on February 23, 2024, 08:38:06 AM
https://youtu.be/MlrCMK14zHs?si=X4oziU_IJx8FCpOd&t=10  (I assume that's the reference you were going for)  :laugh:

No, but that works.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: K Frame on February 23, 2024, 08:39:10 AM
I was thinking of this one.

https://youtube.com/shorts/FHy8kW632dE?si=zY2CfCRKh3yK2Rqb

Wow. That was... something.

Ren & Stimpey?
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: MillCreek on February 23, 2024, 09:57:55 AM
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Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 23, 2024, 10:00:15 AM
Certain that's not real but I'm sure if some out there believe it may cause some panic  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Lennyjoe on February 23, 2024, 10:26:12 AM
Ours came back up around 1300 EST yesterday.  Will be interesting to see if we ever get an accurate description on what really caused the comms out.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 23, 2024, 10:29:46 AM
AT&T put out a statement saying it was an update gone wrong.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: K Frame on February 23, 2024, 10:34:04 AM
AT&T put out a statement saying it was an update gone wrong.


That's going to lead to some hefty fines for knocking 911 service out of commission.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 23, 2024, 04:39:09 PM
Wow. That was... something.

Ren & Stimpey?

Correct.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Cliffh on February 23, 2024, 08:14:01 PM
I've got Tracfone and have had no issues. Maybe it's aliens who are taking down our communications alphabetically . . . I was talking to an AT&T tech a few days ago who was out to fix my POTS service. He said in about 2 years AT&T will be discontinuing traditional landline telephone service entirely - EVERYTHING will be either VOIP or cell. They're already curtailing service and maintenance, but doing so very quietly.

We switched from an AT&T landline last year when Spectrum fiber finally became available.  I was paying AT&T $120 a month for one number, Spectrum is costing $20.00 per month.  AT&T keeps sending us ads for landline service, at $45/mo. plus fees & taxes.

I've toyed with the idea of going back to AT&T, but after what you said - nope.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: K Frame on February 24, 2024, 08:26:25 AM
Does anyone have a VOIP land line phone?

How does that work?

Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: MillCreek on February 24, 2024, 09:00:53 AM
I kind of have one:

I have Google Voice and use an Obi200 VOIP box to connect a two line Panasonic speakerphone.  One line connects to my cell, and the other line connects to the Google Voice as a VOIP phone.  The sound quality is great, but I increasingly like to use the Microsoft Teams software phone instead.  It has closed captioning for calls, which is great help with my hearing loss.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Boomhauer on February 24, 2024, 09:26:13 AM
AT&T put out a statement saying it was an update gone wrong.


That's going to lead to some hefty fines for knocking 911 service out of commission.



The update techs:

(https://i.ibb.co/3F5ZhJq/IMG-3883.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R6GwH5m)


Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 24, 2024, 09:34:56 AM
They left out
A bunch of white guys came running in screaming this MAGA country! and crashed the system.

And on that note I'm surprised I haven't seen "effected POC the most" yet.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Brad Johnson on February 24, 2024, 01:52:33 PM
Does anyone have a VOIP land line phone?

How does that work?



Chances are you have one already. A lot of POTS service has been quietly converted to digital with either in-house NUC nodes or A/D converters in the landing boxes.

New VOIP service is probably going to be either a phone assembly with some kind of internal IP compatibility (literally a phone-shaped standalone mini computer) or some kind of VOIP interface box that plugs into to your home network and has a standard phone jack for use with existing phones. Sometimes they'll be st up to backfeed existing houuse jacks for whole-home compatibility..

Brad
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: K Frame on February 24, 2024, 02:13:52 PM
Actually, I don't.

When I dropped FIOS a couple of months ago I also dropped the landline phone and kept only internet access.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: 230RN on February 26, 2024, 02:47:36 AM
     (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNTRkMTI1MjQtMGE5ZC00NWIwLWJjMjEtNmEyN2M4ZmFmNjIzXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTEwODg2MDY@._V1_.jpg)

^Just for a little extra color on the red button concept.

All I know right now is I'm keeping my 2 meter rigs charged for any more of "the net's down" events, red button or botón rojo or whatever.

Hell, I might even resurrect one of my old CB rigs except they use a bigger antenna.

Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 26, 2024, 05:29:20 PM
    AT&T will give $5 to customers hit by cellphone network outage https://t.co/QJI8nYMknW
    — The Associated Press (@AP) February 26, 2024
After Massive Nationwide Service Outage, Guess How AT&T Is Going to Help Customers
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/02/26/at-and-t-5-credit-for-outage-n2393308

Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Lennyjoe on February 26, 2024, 06:18:11 PM
$5?  Well hell, I’m booking a cruise with it…lmao
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: 230RN on February 29, 2024, 11:04:15 AM
Hell, five bucks is five bucks, so quitcher bellyachin'.

Five bucks buys you a....

Wait a minute... what does five bucks buy any more?

Never mind.  Me go now.
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: WLJ on February 29, 2024, 11:08:13 AM
Hell, five bucks is five bucks, so quitcher bellyachin'.

Five bucks buys you a....

Wait a minute... what does five bucks buy any more?

Never mind.  Me go now.

Down payment on a Big Mac meal
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 29, 2024, 12:20:13 PM
Hell, five bucks is five bucks, so quitcher bellyachin'.

Five bucks buys you a....

Wait a minute... what does five bucks buy any more?

Never mind.  Me go now.
Lottery tickets.   =)
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: K Frame on February 29, 2024, 12:30:58 PM
Hell, five bucks is five bucks, so quitcher bellyachin'.

Five bucks buys you a....

Wait a minute... what does five bucks buy any more?

Never mind.  Me go now.


Memory support pills?
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: MillCreek on February 29, 2024, 01:58:50 PM
A Costco rotisserie chicken!
Title: Re: Cell signal down across U.S.. Dry run or tech issue?
Post by: Brad Johnson on February 29, 2024, 04:44:12 PM
Hell, five bucks is five bucks, so quitcher bellyachin'.

Five bucks buys you a....

Wait a minute... what does five bucks buy any more?

Never mind.  Me go now.

A really cheesy C-grade schlock movie from the WalMart discount bargain bin.

Brad