The real problem with millenials

[Fitz]

I hope that didn't com across as critical. We've depleted the savings badly since we went single income with the girls too.

I'm not offended. I mean it, i wish i had thought of that.


I returned from iraq and spend the next couple years partying. Had almost NO savings, just a little. Kid came, volunteered for the mob so i could get her on tricare, and we started building a fund. Mob ended, i needed work... no work to be had.

I'm happy i did it, because that job led to the next, and the next led me here.

[roo_ster]

Wait! If you lost preferred job you would do what you have to to take care of family?   Well aren't you outa step with the in vogue philosophy of life .
I too am handicapped like that and I fear I may have passed this defect on to my kids.

That is not the only way I am out of step with the prevailing culture.  I've gotten used to it.

Not actively trying to go hardscrabble, but not afraid of it.  

The whole Biblical concept of "If you don't work, you don't eat" solves a lot of those problems.  

That one gets use at home.  Kids are getting better at homework, but if they give us too much guff on it, I remind them that school is their work...

People like that...who think they are too "good" for a job...*expletive deleted*ing piss me off...

Same here.  In addition to the "If you don't work, you don;t eat" deal, the Protestant Work Ethic can be pretty powerful.  At its heart, it equates work done honestly is a "Good Work" that benefits all of society.  You don;t have to travel across the world to do a good work, you can be an honest and diligent employee/employer.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Amen


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[KD5NRH]

I'd shovel *expletive deleted* it if needed.

I don't know; I've mopped floor and scrubbed toilets to pay the bills a few times, but Federal politics is probably going too far.

[roo_ster]

I don't know; I've mopped floor and scrubbed toilets to pay the bills a few times, but Federal politics is probably going too far.

There are moral limits, such as prostitution or federal public office (but I repeat myself).

[Balog]

There are moral limits, such as prostitution or federal public office (but I repeat myself).

Hookers at least provide some value for the money they take, and using their services is voluntary. I rank sex workers as far better than any politician.

[Tallpine]

I had a job where part of the work was shoveling horse poop.

I'd just a soon do that as programming except the latter pays better.

[tokugawa]

I'm actively looking at other places to move to, but that has more to do with WA's push to become ever more stupid in its laws.

 Let me know when you find a suitable place......
 I am considering somewhere like the west side of Idaho, maybe north of Lewiston.
 Seems like every state gets to the point where the big urban areas are under permanent communist control, and have the weight to swing the entire state.
 between the constant onslaught to close our range, and mayor big gulps 594, I am close to pulling stakes- and I don't want to go- we have a very nice place here.
 

[KD5NRH]

Hookers at least provide some value for the money they take, and using their services is voluntary. I rank sex workers as far better than any politician.

This.  I also have a general objection to making it illegal to charge for something that's perfectly legal to do for free.

[Boomhauer]

This.  I also have a general objection to making it illegal to charge for something that's perfectly legal to do for free.

To further drift this thread...why is porno legal but prostitution isn't? After all the woman gets paid to have sex either way, just one is on camera while the other is typically not.

[Balog]

Let me know when you find a suitable place......
 I am considering somewhere like the west side of Idaho, maybe north of Lewiston.
 Seems like every state gets to the point where the big urban areas are under permanent communist control, and have the weight to swing the entire state.
 between the constant onslaught to close our range, and mayor big gulps 594, I am close to pulling stakes- and I don't want to go- we have a very nice place here.
 

I hear Utah is nice.

[MillCreek]

I hear Utah is nice.

Montana!  But only if you have or can find a job and can put up with the winters.

[Tallpine]

Montana!  But only if you have or can find a job and can put up with the winters.

North Dakota!  Plenty of jobs but bring your own house 

The winters in MT are only about eight months long.  The other four months is fire season 

[Ben]

Let me know when you find a suitable place......
 I am considering somewhere like the west side of Idaho, maybe north of Lewiston.

Nice area, but Moscow is pretty liberal. Mostly just with people you run into, it doesn't seem to have affected any of the state's freedoms. I was looking around the Weiser area last time I was there.

[Viking]

To further drift this thread...why is porno legal but prostitution isn't? After all the woman gets paid to have sex either way, just one is on camera while the other is typically not.

Porn stars are paid to act in front of the camera. This acting may will definetly include sex, but they aren't technically paid for the sex, they are paid for their acting abilities. All of this is protected by the 1st Amendment. Prostitutes, OTOH, are just paid to have sex.

[fifth_column]

Porn stars are paid to act in front of the camera. This acting may will definetly include sex, but they aren't technically paid for the sex, they are paid for their acting abilities. All of this is protected by the 1st Amendment. Prostitutes, OTOH, are just paid to have sex.

I'm pretty sure prostitution involves a fair amount of acting as well . . . .

[tokugawa]

I hear Utah is nice.

 it is. And the people are real nice too. But I have a suspicion if one is not LDS they would always be a little bit the outsider.
 Montana is real nice, gets bitter cold out on the plains. Too cold for me, I am too old to get used to it.
 I don't really mind the hippies and liberals as people, but as soon as they start voting they love to inflict "the MAN" on other folks. They do have good coffee shops..Moscow is well named..
 

[MillCreek]

I'm pretty sure prostitution involves a fair amount of acting as well . . . .

I was just going to ask if that means I should have gotten paid for all those times I was faking it.

[MillCreek]

Moscow is well named..
 

My wife likes to tell stories about how her and her dorm mates from WSU could put on something low cut and skin tight, hitch from Pullman to Moscow and drink for free as the guys there bought them drinks.  I have told her that she should run a test and see if that would still work now that she is 57, as opposed to 19, years old.

[Balog]

it is. And the people are real nice too. But I have a suspicion if one is not LDS they would always be a little bit the outsider.
 Montana is real nice, gets bitter cold out on the plains. Too cold for me, I am too old to get used to it.
 I don't really mind the hippies and liberals as people, but as soon as they start voting they love to inflict "the MAN" on other folks. They do have good coffee shops..Moscow is well named..
 

As long as they don't hassle me I'll be an outsider all day long.

[Marnoot]

But I have a suspicion if one is not LDS they would always be a little bit the outsider.

Definitely a possibility, though from my conversations with my non-LDS friends and acquaintances (as my view wouldn't be as helpful as I'm LDS) here it varies a lot by where you're living, the particular people you run into/associate with, and your own attitude. Salt Lake valley is 50% LDS, and thus 50% non-LDS, so it just depends. In our current house I end up talking to my nearby non-LDS neighbors more than the nearby LDS ones, just because personalities amongst the people in our particular cul de sac work out that our non-LDS neighbors happen to be more outgoing.

My work is about 50/50 as well. In my office we have a bit under half LDS, the rest being a mix of Catholic, Protestant, chill atheist, fedora Atheist, agnostic, Hindu, and Buddhist. If you venture outside of the Salt Lake Valley the numbers tilt sharply towards a much larger LDS majority.

Salt Lake City proper is the state's liberal stronghold, but the rest of the valley is pretty conservative. While outside of SLC there's not much liberal influence, the politics throughout the state are pretty heavily swayed by the predilections of the LDS majority, particularly in the realm of liquor laws.

[Tallpine]

I was just going to ask if that means I should have gotten paid for all those times I was faking it.

I was going to ask if prostitution would be legal if it was filmed     

[Perd Hapley]

I was going to ask if prostitution would be legal if it was filmed     

If the First Amendment is a defense, then it seems one could take advantage of it, if one really put in the effort. Just film every encounter (one camera on a tripod will do), and keep the videos on hand, in case 5-0 shows up. Tell them it is performance art (or just porn), and you are artist, subject, film director, producer, and collector. Show the films to the hookers, and film them watching it with you. Proof that your videos are "art," that you share with others, as a form of self-expression.

So you'd protect yourself from prosecution by filming your crimes and making them available to the authorities. It works for the porn industry.

[Sergeant Bob]

I'm not offended. I mean it, i wish i had thought of that.


I returned from iraq and spend the next couple years partying. Had almost NO savings, just a little. Kid came, volunteered for the mob so i could get her on tricare, and we started building a fund. Mob ended, i needed work... no work to be had.

I'm happy i did it, because that job led to the next, and the next led me here.

Glad you mentioned Tricare. I have found Tricare For Life (which costs me $200 per month) to be excellent insurance (along with Medicare part "B" at $200 per month) to be excellent insurance. The .mil is taking excellent care of my wonderful wife and I. I have no copays whatsoever.

[Balog]

In other news, the chickens of terrible Baby Boomer parents and their progressively worse offspring are now coming home to roost.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/09/falling-behind-how-we-lost-millennials-and-how-to-get-them-back/