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Casey Anthony acquitted
« on: July 05, 2011, 03:48:26 PM »
This just in: Casey Anthony acquitted of murdering her daughter.  The only conviction was for giving false information to a police officer.
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 03:51:49 PM »
Who?

This is all over drudge and fox, but I never heard of it before today.

Why do we (or the nooz, at least) ritually pick one particular court case to follow every year or so?  What's so unique about this murder trial that makes it any different than any other?
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 03:55:14 PM »
Partly it is sensationalism on the part of the bloody journos.

Partly it's because a mother murdering her 3 y/o is enough of an outrage that people take notice and care.


She sounded pretty obviously guilty, based on what I've seen. Sad she seems to be pulling an OJ. G-D trailer trash w####, one can only hope she OD's on meth before she has time to procreate then murder her offspring again.
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 03:58:49 PM »
Surprised me!

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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 04:04:20 PM »
From what little I've seen, the prosecution didn't meet the "Beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Maybe she did it, maybe not, but you have to prove it.
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 04:14:35 PM »
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 04:30:03 PM »
From what little I've seen, the prosecution didn't meet the "Beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Maybe she did it, maybe not, but you have to prove it.

From a common sense standard, rather than an American legal standard, she's obviously up to her eyeballs in her daughter's death and disappearance, but the vague facts of the case were in her favor, and prosecutorial incompetence broke her way.

My gut feeling is that the daughter died through neglect/abuse/gross-indifference (drugging her to allow the mother to go out on dates etc.) and then due to the mother's squirrely nature and as a known habitual liar, she needlessly over-complicated the cover story of a disappearance, to the point it actually came full-circle back into her favor by creating too much reasonable doubt.

Just through all the crazy that came out in the trial, I could see Casey Anthony actually trying to stage her daughter's non-intentionally (however negligently it may have been) dead body as a foul-play murder with the duct-tape by over-thinking all the lies. I'm sure many have seen the type, Narcissistic personality disorder, that continually manifests itself as constant calculation an scheming to the point of sociopathy as to what they want, what their status in life is vis-a-vi their family and peer groups etc.

She's one of those "goes free to protect the innocent" cases unfortunately.
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 04:33:57 PM »
Even though I've tried to avoid it, practically every time I tuned to Fox this story was running . . . so I couldn't help but hear a few things before I changed the channel. (Fox was becoming the "All Casey, All The Time" channel.)

Did she do it? I don't know . . . and clearly the jury didn't, either. Showing that someone is a worthless lowlife isn't the same as proving - proving! - she killed her kid. My gut feel is that she's guilty . . . but I wasn't in the court and can't say beyond a reasonable doubt that she in fact killed her kid.

As for the "lying to a cop" conviction  - remember Martha Stewart, anyone? - it says, once again, to keep your mouth SHUT when being questioned. (I have a problem with making it a crime to lie when you're NOT under oath . . . when the person you're talking to is free to lie to YOU.)
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 04:41:55 PM »
Quite honestly the woman was tried and convicted by the "expert" talking heads the media(s) conjured up. I happened to be in Orlando when the body was discovered, you think Fox was all Casey all the time? You should have seen the local cobverage in Orlando while it was unfolding. I can't see her doing it intentionally. Accidentally out of stupidity, maybe. But again, where's the proof?

The prosecutors made reference to some 100+ other child murder cases on the docket in FL. My thought too was, "What makes this trial so special?"

Same with Gabby and all that coverage. Meanwhile here in CT a teenager died of a similar head wound. No major coverage on that one, 10 seconds at the most announcing his death. I know I'm preaching to the choir but the media in this country just plain sucks ass.
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 04:43:50 PM »
There's no way she could have kept silent. You watch her talking for more thin five minutes and you can see she has the kind of personality where she HAS to say SOMETHING. Keeping silent is just not an option. Although I agree, had she reported her daughter missing right away, or within a believable time-frame of 1-2 days or whatever, then clammed up on the 5th amendment/Miranda grounds saying "I think the cops are trying to railroad me", she'd have 50% of America believing her. Like the Jon Benet Ramsey case, or Elizabeth Smart where the family was under suspicion for a long time.

It's just how she passive-aggressively controls the world and her environment. I suspect she is the sort who lies constantly even about innocuous things, just to feel in control of people and events around her. I don't think a defense attorney with a cattle prod could have shut her up.

I don't think there's anyone who believes she's not responsible for her daughter's death somehow. She's merely getting off on double-jeopardy and that the DA's were overconfident and outraged enough to go for murder, and not for some sort of lesser manslaughter type of charge.

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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 04:46:17 PM »
From what little I've seen, the prosecution didn't meet the "Beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Maybe she did it, maybe not, but you have to prove it.

I haven't kept up with the story much; but, from what little I've heard, the prosecution tried to make a lot of hay with not a lot of evidence...most of it circumstantial. There was significantly less evidence than what Texas had when they went after Darlie Routier ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie_Routier ).

I'm more interested in what the judge will do with the four "lying to the LEO" counts....knowing the political/popular pressure involved, she may end up doing more time for that than for the actual murder....
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 05:05:14 PM »
Speculation is she will walk on time served Thursday. But, of course, it's talking expert heads doing the speculating. Talk about trailer trash though, Nancy Grace had some bimbo outside the bar where the defense people were celebrating with disgruntled people crowding around outside and asked what looked like another piece of trash her opinion which was, "I had a chance to be on the jury but I squirmed out of it. Now I'm sorry because I would have voted for conviction and at least hung the jury."  [barf]

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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2011, 05:13:13 PM »
There's no way she could have kept silent. You watch her talking for more thin five minutes and you can see she has the kind of personality where she HAS to say SOMETHING. Keeping silent is just not an option. Although I agree, had she reported her daughter missing right away, or within a believable time-frame of 1-2 days or whatever, then clammed up on the 5th amendment/Miranda grounds saying "I think the cops are trying to railroad me", she'd have 50% of America believing her. Like the Jon Benet Ramsey case, or Elizabeth Smart where the family was under suspicion for a long time.

It's just how she passive-aggressively controls the world and her environment. I suspect she is the sort who lies constantly even about innocuous things, just to feel in control of people and events around her. I don't think a defense attorney with a cattle prod could have shut her up.

I don't think there's anyone who believes she's not responsible for her daughter's death somehow. She's merely getting off on double-jeopardy and that the DA's were overconfident and outraged enough to go for murder, and not for some sort of lesser manslaughter type of charge.



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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 05:28:54 PM »
Precisely why she didn't take the stand in her own defense.

Yes, although the common wisdom that the accused never should take the stand kind of weakens this particular case of it a bit.

The main thing I agree with is about the disproportionate coverage this case has gotten. Just one more reason I loathe the MSM. Kids die from abuse and neglect every day, and a few actual cases of random stranger rape/kidnappings too. And the only common thread about which get covered is how photogenic the victims and the abuser are.

IMO, disproportionately reporting on one case or instance of "the truth" warps peoples minds as much as outright lies do.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 05:32:25 PM »
Good point aj.
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 06:51:07 PM »
Speculation is she will walk on time served Thursday. But, of course, it's talking expert heads doing the speculating. Talk about trailer trash though, Nancy Grace had some bimbo outside the bar where the defense people were celebrating with disgruntled people crowding around outside and asked what looked like another piece of trash her opinion which was, "I had a chance to be on the jury but I squirmed out of it. Now I'm sorry because I would have voted for conviction and at least hung the jury."  [barf]

Poor Nancy Grace (speaking of trash!) ... she has made Casey Anthony into a freakin' career, and now she's been deprived of her opportunity to gloat.

There's a word for people like her, but I don't think I'm supposed to use it on this site. (Hint: the word is not "journalist.")
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Re: Casey Anthony acquitted
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 06:56:04 PM »
Poor Nancy Grace (speaking of trash!) ... she has made Casey Anthony into a freakin' career, and now she's been deprived of her opportunity to gloat.

There's a word for people like her, but I don't think I'm supposed to use it on this site. (Hint: the word is not "journalist.")
If memory serves, she caused one woman to commit suicide due to false allegations.

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 06:59:16 PM »
Poor Nancy Grace (speaking of trash!) ... she has made Casey Anthony into a freakin' career, and now she's been deprived of her opportunity to gloat.

There's a word for people like her, but I don't think I'm supposed to use it on this site. (Hint: the word is not "journalist.")


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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 07:01:21 PM »
Thanks to the media, that piece of filth will be writing a book in a year or two and making millions.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 07:23:44 PM »
Thanks to the media, that piece of filth will be writing a book in a year or two and making millions.
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Not to mention any deals Casey Anthony gets too...
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 07:28:42 PM »
A darn shame.  A kid disappears, momma parties like crazy and does not report her missing for a month, kid found dead and buried with duct tape across her mouth.  If someone doesn't spend at least 30 years in prison, we have a major problem....which apparently we do. I hope she lives a miserable life which ends badly for her. 

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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 07:42:51 PM »
I have a hard time believing the state screwed up so thoroughly.  Usually the state does a better job of matching charges to evidence.  It is almost like the state deemed her guilty and decided to shoot the moon on charges with little regard to evidence in hand.  The only charge she was convicted on was a throwaway.  I guess the jury felt sorry for the state.  Someone will have to explain this fiasco.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2011, 07:50:11 PM »

harridan a bad word here?

Yeah....far too wishy-washy a word to describe her....feel free to try again.....
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2011, 07:52:01 PM »
I hope she lives a miserable life which ends badly for her. 

Chances are, she's well on her way.
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2011, 08:08:24 PM »
I have a hard time believing the state screwed up so thoroughly.  Usually the state does a better job of matching charges to evidence.  It is almost like the state deemed her guilty and decided to shoot the moon on charges with little regard to evidence in hand.  The only charge she was convicted on was a throwaway.  I guess the jury felt sorry for the state.  Someone will have to explain this fiasco.
Honestly, if I were on the jury and had already decided "not guilty" on the big charge, I would be inclined to vote not guilty on charges like that also.  I really hate the "well, we got her on something" charges. 
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