Questions Arise About Anti-Islam Filmmaker

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

you didn't look at the link?

i don't blame ya a bit

[MechAg94]

From what I have heard, almost no one has even seen this movie.  Blaming all the attacks on it is idioitic.  

As said during the last round of rage over cartoons, I think we should be publishing daily/weekly pictures and insults to Muhammed.  Not to insult the Muslims, but to provide an object lesson on what exactly free speech is.  Eventually, even they will get over it.  They don't like us very much now anyway.

[Scout26]

Reading your link c&sd it would appear that the feds are making him prove his innocence as they have no hard evidence.

I still don't see where 55% came from, so I'm going with a 4th point of contact number.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Reading your link c&sd it would appear that the feds are making him prove his innocence as they have no hard evidence.

I still don't see where 55% came from, so I'm going with a 4th point of contact number.

no hard evidence he made the film? used an alias? violated parole?   
you mean other than him admitting it?    what more you want?

you don't understand how parole works?


as to the 55%  i posted a link to a study that sourced it to the doj study.   sorry that contradicts your emotions about it.  reality does that sometimes

[Ron]

Good article worth the read:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/09/16/ayaan-hirsi-ali-on-the-islamists-final-stand.html

But that was nothing compared with what happened when I made a short film with Theo van Gogh (titled Submission) that drew attention to the direct link between the Quran and the plight of Muslim women. In revenge for this act of free thinking, Mohammed Bouyeri, a 26-year-old Dutch-Moroccan man, murdered van Gogh—shooting him eight times and stabbing him with two knives, one of which pinned a note to his body threatening the West, Jews, and me. As he was dying, my friend Theo reportedly asked his assailant, “Can’t we talk about this?” It’s a question that has haunted me ever since, often in bed at night. One side proposing a conversation; the other side thrusting a blade.

[brimic]

But that was nothing compared with what happened when I made a short film with Theo van Gogh (titled Submission) that drew attention to the direct link between the Quran and the plight of Muslim women. In revenge for this act of free thinking, Mohammed Bouyeri, a 26-year-old Dutch-Moroccan man, murdered van Gogh—shooting him eight times and stabbing him with two knives, one of which pinned a note to his body threatening the West, Jews, and me. As he was dying, my friend Theo reportedly asked his assailant, “Can’t we talk about this?” It’s a question that has haunted me ever since, often in bed at night. One side proposing a conversation; the other side thrusting a blade.

I learned everything I needed to know a few years back...
I had a coworker who originated from Sudan, emigrated to and was educated in the Netherlands before immigrating into the US.
He was a very nice guy, I got along with him great, and most others got along with him well too.
When this incident came out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_teddy_bear_blasphemy_case , oneof my coworkers asked him what he thought of it. His reply was that the woman blasphemed the prophet and should be beheaded.

[Scout26]

C&sd reading is fundamental.  It states (at the bottom) that 45% are returned to prison.  With 1/3 having committed new crimes and the rest on technical violations.


It also points out after providing that number that:

¹ No citation found for FN_probation-and-parole-in-the-united-states-1998! .

So it looks like they pulled that number out of their fourth point of contact.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

C&sd that says 45% violated parole, not 55%.

it says 45% completed successfully   and to be honest i thought that was high but i guess a lotta folks get unsupervised so that might explain it. its difficult for "normal" or at least law abiding folks to comprehend   

[Jamie B]

I learned everything I needed to know a few years back...
I had a coworker who originated from Sudan, emigrated to and was educated in the Netherlands before immigrating into the US.
He was a very nice guy, I got along with him great, and most others got along with him well too.
When this incident came out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_teddy_bear_blasphemy_case , oneof my coworkers asked him what he thought of it. His reply was that the woman blasphemed the prophet and should be beheaded.

Irritated but not surprised by this.
Makes one wonder if they act just like a pre-programed drone when their religion kicks in.....

[zxcvbob]

So it looks like they pulled that number out of their fourth point of contact.

That's where all the best statistics originate.  Often doesn't matter what the debate or which side of the issue.   

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

That's where all the best statistics originate.  Often doesn't matter what the debate or which side of the issue.   

goodness  reading is fundamental  the statistic is on the first line of the link i warned the gestalt they wouldn't like. its sourced to doj. if you can come up with anyone who wants tro pretend some majority of folks complete probation/parole please let me know.  i'm gonna take a nap have a sandwich while you guys try


here its be kind to the true believers week
http://www.nij.gov/topics/courts/pretrial/research-meeting/austin.pdf
page 3

or here
http://www.appa-net.org/eweb/DynamicPage.aspx?WebCode=VB_FAQ#1

[HankB]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/america_basher_backfire_dKswUjW6LBShGc2uKrGyIM

Old Glory strikes back - a Pakistani man kicked the bucket from smoke inhalation.

The smoke was from burning American flags at a demonstration he was attending!     

[Fitz]

goodness  reading is fundamental  the statistic is on the first line of the link i warned the gestalt they wouldn't like. its sourced to doj. if you can come up with anyone who wants tro pretend some majority of folks complete probation/parole please let me know.  i'm gonna take a nap have a sandwich while you guys try


here its be kind to the true believers week
http://www.nij.gov/topics/courts/pretrial/research-meeting/austin.pdf
page 3

or here
http://www.appa-net.org/eweb/DynamicPage.aspx?WebCode=VB_FAQ#1

Once again you are the master at posting things that do not matter

Tell me. Were it not for the film, would this man be in custody. Again, no obfuscation or deflection please. Yes or no?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

irony escapes you doesn't it?
reality too?
when other than your fevered dreams has he been in custody since he made parole?
do wax prolific on posting things that don't matter for us
 assuming that no other instances of mr meth cook violating his parole exist he would not be facing parole violations.  heck he coulda got away with his current oopsies if he had not gotten so public with it  but the system relies and rightly so on the stupid to make it easy for the courts.

was that clear enough?

were it not for the film as far as i know he was in compliance. likely not but that will come out shortly i suspect

[brimic]

Old Glory strikes back - a Pakistani man kicked the bucket from smoke inhalation.

The smoke was from burning American flags at a demonstration he was attending!

Win!
Not only will we kill you in your sleep on Christmas, but our flags themselves will kill you too.

[Jamie B]

Win!
Not only will we kill you in your sleep on Christmas, but our flags themselves will kill you too.

Note to self:

Obtain patent for American flags made of Detcord for ME distribution.

[kgbsquirrel]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/america_basher_backfire_dKswUjW6LBShGc2uKrGyIM

Old Glory strikes back - a Pakistani man kicked the bucket from smoke inhalation.

The smoke was from burning American flags at a demonstration he was attending!     

You know, I always thought it'd be amusing to slip an asbestos cloth flag to a few of these screaming beards and watch them have a fit as they tried in vain to burn it. 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i think something pyrotechnic as a coating might be fun to watch
'

[41magsnub]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/america_basher_backfire_dKswUjW6LBShGc2uKrGyIM

Old Glory strikes back - a Pakistani man kicked the bucket from smoke inhalation.

The smoke was from burning American flags at a demonstration he was attending!     

So outsourcing flag production to China is a good thing now?   

[Fitz]

So, ignoring all the drivel but your last paragraph, the only one that answers the question: you agree then that he would not be in custody if it were not for hurting some Muslims feelings?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

rofl

you talk drivel?   you of the zomg (fill in the fictional nonsense dujour here) crowd?

lets recap  not arrested  not in custody  no midnite visit from fbi  no charges at all yet and certainly none from film.


 on the reality aside
multiple felon on parole breaks a very specific condition of his parole and goes to see his po as required as a condition of that parole.  zomg the outrage!!!  not

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

al jones has competition  and i think he was more worried about "adam against the man"

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-09-17/world/world_anti-islam-filmmaker_1_hardcore-anti-islam-groups-historical-arabian-desert-adventure-dionne

he owes 3/4 mill?  bet the movie was/is a scam to fleece folks to pay that debt.  thats gonna really bite him in the butt with that tail hes drsgging.  how do the feds do parole?  does street time count?  i know in va you can do 9 years 11 months on 10 years parole and violate in last month. be sent back to do the whole 10. no credit for street time.  never done fed so i don't know about that one.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

yea   he fleeced em
first rule of a con?  tell the sucker what he wants to hear

and even better to sucker some bloggers first
they sucker the rest for ya
kinda like gunpal/gpal

http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/media-for-christ-boss-joseph-nassralla-says-anti-muhammad-filmmaker-nakoula-basseley-nakoula-misled-him-while-pamela-gellers-blog-solicited-funds-for-anti-muhammad-film/

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/09/innocence-of-muslims-filmaker-duped-christian-charity-leader-says.html