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Title: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: just Warren on September 18, 2018, 09:06:22 PM
http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/24726426/fanduel-not-honoring-bet-paid-more-82000-due-line-error

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After quarterback Case Keenum completed a pass down to the Oakland 18-yard line, putting the Broncos in comfortable field goal range, FanDuel attempted to update the live betting odds to reflect Denver as a -600 favorite. However, according to the company, an error in the live-odds feed caused the Broncos to be posted as 750-1 (+75,000) underdogs to win the game.

Prince went to the counter, bet on the Broncos at the erroneous 750-1 odds and received a ticket that showed a potential payout of $82,610. At the correct odds of -600, he would have won a net $18.35.


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but when Prince went to the counter, he was told the bet would not be paid out at the 750-1 odds.

FanDuel instead offered to pay him around $500 and give him tickets to three New York Giants games. Prince declined to take FanDuel's offer and told News 12 New Jersey that he planned to hire an attorney.

"They said their system had a glitch in it and they're not obligated to pay for glitches," Prince told the TV station.

Exactly! Why do you have an attorney, you dweeb? Just take what they offered you and move on.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: Nick1911 on September 18, 2018, 09:14:07 PM
The ticket is a contract, with written terms on it, established between Prince and FanDual, is it not?

FanDual may have issued him that contract in error, but they did issue it.  Is it unconscionable?  Maybe, maybe not.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: dogmush on September 18, 2018, 09:25:30 PM
I think they'll find they are obligated to pay for glitches.  They took the bet.  Dude should bust some knees.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: 230RN on September 18, 2018, 09:52:31 PM
Their rules seem to cover it, that they won't pay out on "palpable" errors.  But it happens often enough that they actually call them "palps."

Nevertheless, I say pay, and fix your fricken system.  We'll see what the gaming commission says.  But I suspect 82 large is a pretty minor dent in their overall picture.  Hardly "palpable" at all in those terms, I'll wager.  =D
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: MechAg94 on September 18, 2018, 10:09:09 PM
Their rules seem to cover it, that they won't pay out on "palpable" errors.  But it happens often enough that they actually call them "palps."

Nevertheless, I say pay, and fix your fricken system.  We'll see what the gaming commission says.  But I suspect 82 large is a pretty minor dent in their overall picture.  Hardly "palpable" at all in those terms, I'll wager.  =D
Makes me wonder how many other people elected not to sue.  Screw ups should hurt. 
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: grampster on September 18, 2018, 11:41:53 PM
He should have taken the 500 bucks and the tickets.  By the time he wins his case, after the lawyer skims his vigorish, the bettor will have less than 500 bucks and no tickets.  LOL.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: makattak on September 19, 2018, 02:56:11 PM
IIRC, most states with gambling have protections for "errors" by the betting establishment.

I remember someone "winning" a $1M jackpot on a slot machine whose odds had not been programmed correctly. The casino's decision not to pay was upheld by the courts.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: brimic on September 19, 2018, 03:14:37 PM
IIRC, most states with gambling have protections for "errors" by the betting establishment.

I remember someone "winning" a $1M jackpot on a slot machine whose odds had not been programmed correctly. The casino's decision not to pay was upheld by the courts.

'Errors' like Illinois not having the money to pay its lotto winners?

Its reasons like this that I don't gamble- everything is stacked against the bettor before the first hand is dealt or the first die is cast.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: 230RN on September 20, 2018, 07:55:05 AM
brimic remarked,

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It's reasons like this that I don't gamble- everything is stacked against the bettor before the first hand is dealt or the first die is cast.

Old saying:  "Gamblers don't gamble."

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IIRC, most states with gambling have protections for "errors" by the betting establishment.

That figures, doesn't it?  Who's got the bucks to lobby bribe lobby the legislators?  You?  Me?  Or the betting establishment.

My sense of justice and fair play says they've got ways of figuring the odds, just like me.  If I screw up on my figuring, why don't I have the same "protections" as when they screw up on their figuring?

Well, I have a weird sense of fair play and all that ethics BS.

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...I remember someone "winning" a $1M jackpot on a slot machine whose odds had not been programmed correctly. The casino's decision not to pay was upheld by the courts.

Can you dig up a link for that?  I'd appreciate  it.

WRT OP, I still think they should pay the $82K and shuffle away with their heads down like the good loser they expect me to be.

Terry
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: MechAg94 on September 20, 2018, 10:20:09 AM

WRT OP, I still think they should pay the $82K and shuffle away with their heads down like the good loser they expect me to be.

Terry
I agree with that.  In this case, it wasn't a machine error or malfunction, one of their workers put in the number wrong and they accepted a bet at the wrong odds.   IMO, they should pay out.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: makattak on September 20, 2018, 10:23:40 AM
Can you dig up a link for that?  I'd appreciate  it.

WRT OP, I still think they should pay the $82K and shuffle away with their heads down like the good loser they expect me to be.

Terry

Immediate searches are getting bupkis. My feeling is that it happened in New Jersey, but I haven't found it yet.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: 230RN on September 20, 2018, 12:14:03 PM
^"Immediate searches are getting bupkis. My feeling is that it happened in New Jersey, but I haven't found it yet. "

OK, don't break your ass over it.  It just would have been nice, is all.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: just Warren on September 20, 2018, 09:48:37 PM
FanDuel has decided to pay up on all the bets. (http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/24744967/fanduel-pay-man-full-82000-disputed-bet)

The negative publicity was costing them more than the money, I guess.
Title: Re: How could this bettor think he has a case?
Post by: 230RN on September 20, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
FanDuel has decided to pay up on all the bets. (http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/24744967/fanduel-pay-man-full-82000-disputed-bet)

The negative publicity was costing them more than the money, I guess.

Nah.  It was the Deringer in Anthony Prince's waistband.