The non-koran-burning.

[Perd Hapley]

I guess no one has brought this up because it would be pretty much like all the Phred Phelps threads that have been done to death. Especially since Terry Jones admits to taking part in a "demonstration" with the WBC.  But now it becomes interesting.

He called off the stunt today, claiming that he struck a deal with Abdel Rauf (the Manhattan Mosque Mullah).  But Rauf denies making any such deal.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/pastor-terry-jones-calls-off-koran-burning-ground-zero-mosque/story?id=11594495


What is going on down there?

[Jamisjockey]

Easy. Someone who's nutty, but less nutty than the WBC people, is getting their 15 minutes of fame. It falls right into the lefts hands, since Islam is the new Opressed class, they can use this as yet another reason why Islam is oppressed and Obama must save them.  I'd bet dollars to dounts that if he had burned the Koran, he'd have been charged with a hate crime by the DOJ.

Post is certain to go political, IMHO, so I'm moving it over to politics.

[roo_ster]

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/#cnnSTCText

"Military burns unsolicited Bibles sent to Afghanistan"

[Tallpine]

He should have made a pile of Korans, soaked it in water, and then called down fire from heaven  

[Perd Hapley]

Easy. Someone who's nutty, but less nutty than the WBC people, is getting their 15 minutes of fame. It falls right into the lefts hands, since Islam is the new Opressed class, they can use this as yet another reason why Islam is oppressed and Obama must save them.  I'd bet dollars to dounts that if he had burned the Koran, he'd have been charged with a hate crime by the DOJ.

Post is certain to go political, IMHO, so I'm moving it over to politics.

But this story has gotten really weird in the last hour or two.  Did you read the news story?

[Jamisjockey]

Yeah.  Its weird. Really weird.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Either the FL preacher is lying, or the NY imam is lying.

I don't know anything about the preacher.  What I do know of the imam leads me to believe that he might have struck a deal and then denied it.  Recall that the imam agreed to meet with NY Gov Patterson about moving the mosque, then backed out of the meeting.

Did anyone catch the story about the imam threatening bad things if we don't allow the mosque to go up?

[AZRedhawk44]

He should have made a pile of Korans, soaked it in water gasoline, and then called down fire from heaven with a zippo  

FTFY.

The entire muslim world is itching to go to fisticuffs with us.

Does Fistful care if they burn a copy of the New Testament?  Do the folks in Salt Lake City care if someone burns a Book of Mormon?  Do Buddhists go nuts if someone burns the Lotus Sutra?

I just threw away a duplicate copy of the Baghavad Gita last month.  Should I look out for radical Hindis?

The longer we wait and let Iran develop nuclear weapons (or Syria, or Pakistan transfers power to the radicals, or whatever), the worse the situation will be than if we HIT THEM NOW.

So.  Burn the stupid books.  It's just paper.  Let them retaliate.  Then have at it.

All this posturing is a waste of lives in A-stan and Iraq as we pretend to make nice.  They don't want to make nice.  They're letting us know, by the terroristic threats they're making IF WE BURN A STUPID BOOK.

The sooner we start the real war, the better.

[Perd Hapley]

Either the FL preacher is lying, or the NY imam is lying.

Or the FL preacher is just nuts.  However, an FL Imam arranged the meeting.  I would assume he was there.  Are they both lying then?  If so, why admit it immediately, instead of waiting at least until 12 Sept?

It make no sense.

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

Or the FL preacher is just nuts.  However, an FL Imam arranged the meeting.  I would assume he was there.  Are they both lying then?  If so, why admit it immediately, instead of waiting at least until 12 Sept?

It make no sense.

Sure it does. NY Imam agrees, "sure, we'll move our mosque elsewhere." "Then I won't burn the books." "Deal." "Deal."
A few minutes later:
"April Fools, infidel!"

[Perd Hapley]

Then he would have waited until tomorrow, at least, and been unavailable for comment until Sunday.

Unless he just wants to make the guy look like an idiot, which I guess is pretty plausible.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

The entire muslim world is itching to go to fisticuffs with us.



generalize much?

[AZRedhawk44]

The entire muslim world is itching to go to fisticuffs with us.



generalize much?

That's what Obama, the State department, the FBI, General Patreus, the New York Times, and Al Jazeera are telling us.  It was 3/4 of the total Drudge headlines prior to the guy crying off.

[MicroBalrog]

That's what Obama, the State department, the FBI, General Patreus, the New York Times, and Al Jazeera are telling us. 

And outside of Gen. Petreaus, which one of these entities is known for its truthfulness?

[Perd Hapley]

Obama tells us the truth; he's a new and different kind of politician.   

[AZRedhawk44]

Obama tells us the truth; he's a new and different kind of politician.   

Muslims love me, yes I know:  Because Obama tells me so!   

[Waitone]

I think the gentleman (as polite a phrase as I can think of at the moment) inadvertently got his weenie caught in his zipper and is desperately looking for relief.  Claiming the Imam agreed to talk is his way of reducing pain.  I don't think he had the slightest clue his media stunt would cause the outrage that is evidently planned.  It is one thing to get the media lathered up.  Quite another thing to get people killed. 

[lee n. field]

Or the FL preacher is just nuts. 

That right there.  Saw this on Freerepublic: Dove Church Academy Rulebook.

[seeker_two]

I'm glad the preacher stopped this farce...esp. since this isn't the way Christ handled non-Christian/non-Jewish people (read the story of the Centurion's daughter....most centurions were Roman).....

A better venue would have been to host an open forum on the differences b/t Islam and Christianity....and why Christ's message is superior....


(...which I would expect a Christian church to advocate...save your flames...)

Now....I wonder if the Imam will hold up to his end of the bargain....and if the preacher is still alive in six months....

[Perd Hapley]

I think the gentleman (as polite a phrase as I can think of at the moment) inadvertently got his weenie caught in his zipper and is desperately looking for relief.  Claiming the Imam agreed to talk is his way of reducing pain.  I don't think he had the slightest clue his media stunt would cause the outrage that is evidently planned.  It is one thing to get the media lathered up.  Quite another thing to get people killed. 

Oh, definitely.

Now....I wonder if the Imam will hold up to his end of the bargain....and if the preacher is still alive in six months....

I wouldn't hold my breath on this goon from Florida solving the whole GZ Mosque situation.  Though stranger things have happened.

[roo_ster]

I think the gentleman (as polite a phrase as I can think of at the moment) inadvertently got his weenie caught in his zipper and is desperately looking for relief.  Claiming the Imam agreed to talk is his way of reducing pain.  I don't think he had the slightest clue his media stunt would cause the outrage that is evidently planned.  It is one thing to get the media lathered up.  Quite another thing to get people killed. 

It is not the FL Westboro wanna-be who would be getting people killed, it would be Muslim savages.

At this point, he ought to go through with it.  I'm getting tired of pussy-footing around with barbarians.

[Perd Hapley]

Dove Church Academy Rulebook.

   Some of the kookier religious wing-nuts are opposed to the internet.  Just imagine some of the bizarre doctrine that is NOT available online.

[TechMan]

   Some of the kookier religious wing-nuts are opposed to the internet.  Just imagine some of the bizarre doctrine that is NOT available online.

Heard on an MSM station that daughter of said wing-nut stated that he is running a cult.  Also, MSM station stated that he had been kicked out of his last church in Germany for some financial issues (i.e. missing money.)

[Tallpine]

Heard on an MSM station that daughter of said wing-nut stated that he is running a cult.  Also, MSM station stated that he had been kicked out of his last church in Germany for some financial issues (i.e. missing money.)

Definitely a cult.

Those rules sound a bit like the EOC back in the late seventies 

[Stetson]

You could read the rules?  Apparently they believe spell checker is the work of the devil 
The grammar police would have a field day with this group...