Shotgun shell question

[freakazoid]

So I'm sitting here on CSMC watch till 0300 bored out of my mind when I decide to look up hunting regulations in California. While looking through this PDF of waterfowl and upland game hunting I come across a regulation in the resident small game section that says "All shot must be loose in the shell." What is this talking about? I'm assuming you can buy shot that's not loose, if so why wouldn't you be able to use it?
 

[Perd Hapley]

Because it's against regulations, silly.   

[freakazoid]

 

[kgbsquirrel]

I'll take a SWAG at this and say that it's part of the "sporting" aspects of hunting laws. Theoretically, you can seize the round shot in the cup of a shot shell with some sort of binder, such as wax, and potentially extend the range at which-oh screw it all, I can't do this anymore, it's freaking California! You might as well be asking "why the walrus mirror calibrates the sound of green while oyster" for all the good it will do.

[280plus]

I had a VN vet tell me they used the gov issued peanut butter.

[birdman]

I had a VN vet tell me they used the gov issued peanut butter.

Otherwise known as a "super chunky" load.

[280plus]

 

[Perd Hapley]

Is there such a thing as shotgun chain shot?

[grislyatoms]

I'll take a SWAG at this and say that it's part of the "sporting" aspects of hunting laws. Theoretically, you can seize the round shot in the cup of a shot shell with some sort of binder, such as wax, and potentially extend the range at which-oh screw it all, I can't do this anymore, it's freaking California! You might as well be asking "why the walrus mirror calibrates the sound of green while oyster" for all the good it will do.

[280plus]

Is there such a thing as shotgun chain shot?

Well, going back to the same VN vet, he claimed they would put split shot on piano wire every couple inches and stuff it into a shell sealed by,,, gov issue PB. 

[coppertales]

Just let your steel shot sit out in the rain for a bit...........................chris3

[41magsnub]

So..  which gun solvent removes PB from the barrel?   

[freakazoid]

 

[mtnbkr]

So..  which gun solvent removes PB from the barrel?   

Strawberry Jam.  Switch to honey for heavy deposits.

Chris

[White Horseradish]

Is there such a thing as shotgun chain shot?

I have heard of people loadign buckshot tied together somehow. Dunno what the practical effects are.

[birdman]

Strawberry Jam.  Switch to honey for heavy deposits.

Chris

Use a jag, and wonder bread as a patch, run it through a few times.

[Larry Ashcraft]

Years ago I had a few shotgun shells from a yard sale or something.  The crimp look odd, so I cut one ope.

Someone had removed the shot and replaced it with split shot clamped onto copper wire.  Not sure what the point was, but I disposed of the ammo.

[Viking]

Is there such a thing as shotgun chain shot?

http://www.firequest.com/G12-018.html

[230RN]

Macho Gaucho, huh? 'Druther use a rope.  Not that I could ever cast a lariat.  Not that I could ever ride that well.  Not that I ever had any cows to rope.  I wonder if a fly on a bubble would work?  Not that I fished that way often.  'Spose you could teach cows to come when called?  "Here, hiefer, here, girl, come on.... that's a good girl... yes, aren't you a good girl... yes you are..."  And I can think of a dozen way to use reg'lar shotgun shells effectively for SD.  And would shriek less.  Although one over the heads of the miscreants might scare the honkers off 'em.  But if it came to "firearm use" time, I don't think I'd want to aim over their heads.  Maybe below the belt. Now that would scare the honkers off 'em.

Macho Gaucho.... Loco 'Mericuhns, that's what.

I forgot who I am, so I can't sign this one.

[BobR]

you can seize the round shot in the cup of a shot shell with some sort of binder, such as wax,

I have to admit to actually doing this many years ago to see how it would work. I did it to #7 and #4 shot with wax. Both shot sizes stayed together (essentially) until it hit something and then the shot would disperse from the wax. The #4 shot was reasonalby effective against targets such as drywall, plywood and car doors. It would leave a large hole in the target (size of the shot packet), dpending on how it hit, it always tumbled. I wasn't smart enough to put another target behind the object I was shooting so I am not sure how effective it would have actually been. The #4 load would penetrate a car door and shred the door liner fairly well.

bob

[Scout26]

Send a box of shotshells and a candle or two to Box O' Truth.

 

[280plus]

Years ago I had a few shotgun shells from a yard sale or something.  The crimp look odd, so I cut one ope.

Someone had removed the shot and replaced it with split shot clamped onto copper wire.  Not sure what the point was, but I disposed of the ammo.

Same as the piano wire with split shot. Once it leaves the barrel it expands into who knows what type of pattern and moves forward as a unit. Think about it. Nasty stuff.

[griz]

I think this is the wax binder idea.  If you skip ahead to about 2:15 you can see the effectiveness.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Iraqveteran8888#p/u/49/VhqosJmUS-0

[freakazoid]

That's pretty crazy.

[roo_ster]

Elmore Leonard had a character in Valdez is Coming pour lard/fat into the shot column to increase the effective range of his shotgun loads.