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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: charby on May 09, 2017, 06:03:50 PM
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Trump fired him.
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About time.
Lefties won't know what to do. :lol:
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I guess that means he's the hero of the dem party again instead of their villain.
One bone of contention: At least in the headlines, it's appearing his "misstatement" regarding the number of emails Huma transferred to the weinermobile was "the last straw" leading to his firing. He didn't completely misstate.
I'm not sure about the "hundreds of thousands" (versus just thousands), but it wasn't "just two". It doesn't matter if she "manually transferred" them or if they got there via an automated backup. Either method is against the law. It's the two emails plus whatever classified docs were in the backup volume.
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Let's see.
1) Mishandling the Clinton Investigation.
2) Lying about the FISA court and the Trump Campaign.
3) Mishandling the Weiner case.
Three strikes and out.
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I been trolling...
#1 reason why he was fired
He must be getting close to exposing Trumps Russian Connection.
I'm surprised it took so long. The FBI was closing in on Russian bought Trump and his cronies, so the logical thing to do is to fire the person investigating him. Congratulations Trumptards, The Russians now have complete control of our government. What's it like selling out your country?
:facepalm:
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About time.
Agreed. I was starting to wonder if he had to get the approval of Congress to do it or something. I was surprised he waited.
I guess it has only been a few months and it does take time for him and his people to get situated.
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So much for Comey being the most powerful person in Washington since J. Edgar Hoover.
I won't miss him. Not after the way he booted the investigation of Hillary's intentional mishandling of classified documents.
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Let's see.
1) Mishandling the Clinton Investigation.
2) Lying about the FISA court and the Trump Campaign.
3) Mishandling the Weiner case.
Three strikes and out.
How about naked favoritism toward the obviously felonious Hillary Clinton?
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I been trolling...
#1 reason why he was fired
He must be getting close to exposing Trumps Russian Connection.
I'm surprised it took so long. The FBI was closing in on Russian bought Trump and his cronies, so the logical thing to do is to fire the person investigating him. Congratulations Trumptards, The Russians now have complete control of our government. What's it like selling out your country?
:facepalm:
Oh, my. That must be scout's extra special facebook friend.
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(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/comey-weasel.jpg)
That is probably insulting to weasels.
"Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It is what separates us from the animals.................except the weasel."
https://youtu.be/UCMXmAX18XA
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The typical Republicans are angry at his handling of Clinton.
The typical Democrats are angry that "Russia owns US government now!"
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Well this will keep the Russia investigation as the top headline for awhile. [popcorn]
I wonder how popular Comey was within the FBI? I wouldn't be surprised to see more leaks now if he had many supporters.
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Good riddance to bad rubbish.
If I hadn't seen his pathetic performance during the Clinton press conference I wouldn't have believed it.
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I would have fired him on the first day for the Clinton "investigation."
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Isn't it interesting how in November the Dems were calling for his head because he "cost Hillary her coronation."
Now the Dems are screeching bloody murder because Trump got rid of the one person who was going to prove that he personally plotted with the Russians to stop Hillary's coronation.
*expletive deleted*ers don't know what to think of the man.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/fbi-james-comey-fired-letter/index.html
Letter sent to Comey as well as the letters sent to Trump w/ the recommendation he is fired.
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My staff and I are reviewing legislation to establish an independent commission on Russia. The second paragraph of this letter is bizarre.
I think that second paragraph is just Trump trolling, as always.
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I'm trying to remember all of the parties that Comey has been a lackey for.
He was a Clinton lackey when he refused to recommend charges for Clinton regarding her clear mishandling of classified material.
He was a Trump lackey when he rushed the investigation to release findings right before the election.
He was a Democrat lackey for not being forward about FISA wiretapping of Trump or his associates.
He was a Democrat lackey when he continued investigation of Russian involvement in the elections.
I know I'm missing some other Narrative flips. What were the other accusations of him being a Trump or Republican lackey? The timing of the announcement re the elections was the one everyone remembers.
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I'm trying to remember all of the parties that Comey has been a lackey for.
This is one of the most cut and dried "pure politics" shows that I have seen in a while. Dems who wanted his head are now crying about injustice. Had Hillary won and fired him (and I have no doubt she would have fired him) the Rs would be the ones now outraged about the firing of their new buddy.
I'm more and more falling into the "just pick 535 people out of the phone book (if we still had phone books) every five years and be done with it" camp.
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Maybe I should send an email or tweet to 45 offering my services to replace Comey.
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I would have fired him on the first day for the Clinton "investigation."
The Wall Street Journal agrees with you.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/comeys-deserved-dismissal-1494380259
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So I've been seeing a lot of complaints about Comey stepping outside his authority in not recommending charges
Sanders said Comey’s testimony showed that he had committed "atrocities in circumventing the chain of command” at the Department of Justice and said he had thrown a “stick of dynamite” by going around then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch in calling a press conference in July 2016 to announce his recommendation not to press charges against Clinton.
But didn't Lynch ask him to do exactly that? She punted to him.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch says she will accept whatever recommendations FBI investigators and career prosecutors make about the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server.
His decision to NOT recommend prosecution, while it was the wrong decision, it seems like Lynch gave it to him to make. He was on the hook, and at that point unless he said to charge her it wasn't going to happen. Is it just that he called a press conference and talked way too much about how guilty Clinton was?
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Does anyone actually think that Lynch would have actually charged Clinton?
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I'm more and more falling into the "just pick 535 people out of the phone book (if we still had phone books) every five years and be done with it" camp.
Random number generator and the SS database.
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So I've been seeing a lot of complaints about Comey stepping outside his authority in not recommending charges
But didn't Lynch ask him to do exactly that? She punted to him.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch says she will accept whatever recommendations FBI investigators and career prosecutors make about the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server.
His decision to NOT recommend prosecution, while it was the wrong decision, it seems like Lynch gave it to him to make. He was on the hook, and at that point unless he said to charge her it wasn't going to happen. Is it just that he called a press conference and talked way too much about how guilty Clinton was?
BOLDING mine.
That's not his decision to make. The FBI investigates. Period. End. Full Stop. Once that investigation is complete, they turn everything they have over to the Prosecutors (in this case, "Career Prosecutors) who then make the decision(s) as to what and whom to charge based on the evidence uncovered in the investigation. (Normally those are the elements of the crime, and in this case Mens Rea was not a requirement in the statute.) Comey usurped the proper roles and functions of his position, the FBI and the DOJ when he held his press conference. The best way to have resolved this would have been in a court of law, not at a press conference where he basically laid out Hillary's guilt, without charging her.
His "reopening" of the investigation, then closing it again, just went to show how inept his handling of this case became.
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I would have fired him on the first day for the Clinton "investigation."
That's what I expected Trump to do. Better late than never.
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Funny . . .
The Democrats (including Chucky Schumer) who WANTED Comey fired during the past year, are now positively apoplectic that Trump did what they said they wanted! :rofl:
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Comey usurped the proper roles and functions of his position, the FBI and the DOJ when he held his press conference. The best way to have resolved this would have been in a court of law, not at a press conference
So it was the press conference then? He was supposed to have just told Lynch that he didn't recommend charges and let her get input from others & explain her "decision" from there?
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So I've been seeing a lot of complaints about Comey stepping outside his authority in not recommending charges
But didn't Lynch ask him to do exactly that? She punted to him.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch says she will accept whatever recommendations FBI investigators and career prosecutors make about the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server.
His decision to NOT recommend prosecution, while it was the wrong decision, it seems like Lynch gave it to him to make. He was on the hook, and at that point unless he said to charge her it wasn't going to happen. Is it just that he called a press conference and talked way too much about how guilty Clinton was?
There's a difference between making a recommendation that goes up the food chain (internally), versus calling a press conference and stating that there would be no prosecution -- on the fallacious grounds that she (Hillary) didn't "intend" to break the law. First off, there's a lot of evidence that she very much DID intend to break the law but, more important, the law she broke does not require intent. If you mishandle classified information, you're guilty. Intent is not mentioned, and lots of less important people have been charged and prosecuted for far less egregious instances of mishandling classified information.
The bottom line is in the quote: Lynch didn't delegate the final decision to Comey, she said she would accept the recommendation of the FBI (that's the agency, not just one man -- remember, a lot of agents were very pissed off that Comey curtailed the first investigation) AND career prosecutors. Comey was a prosecutor himself. How do you think he would have reacted if, when he was a prosecutor, the FBI had blindsided him and unilaterally announced there would be no prosecution of a person who was almost certainly guilty? So, no -- he was not doing what Lynch asked him to do. He took her and the prosecutors -- who are the people who are supposed to decide whether or not to press charges -- out of the loop.
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Does anyone actually think that Lynch would have actually charged Clinton?
Of course not. That "chance meeting" with Bill Clinton on the tarmac?
He was explaining to her how Vince Foster "committed suicide" and how quickly someone can fall into a deep depression...
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This is an interesting twist...http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/11/mike-lee-merrick-garland-for-fbi-head.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/11/mike-lee-merrick-garland-for-fbi-head.html)
Instead of a special prosecutor, @realDonaldTrump should nominate Merrick Garland to replace James Comey.
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FINALLY, someone everyone can agree on. He knows how to get things done.
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I had a thought.
Comey was apparently in California when he got surprised by the firing. Did they make him pay for a ticket back to DC since he wasn't on the payroll anymore?
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Who is that?
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Who is that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_Smoking_Man
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I had a thought.
Comey was apparently in California when he got surprised by the firing. Did they make him pay for a ticket back to DC since he wasn't on the payroll anymore?
Maybe they extradited him?
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Who is that?
Cigarette Smoking Man, as has been pointed out. In the series "The X Files" he and Fox Mulder would have run ins. CSM was a major leader of the evil conspiracy of the dark siders ....Bilderbergs, Trilateralwhatevers that were conspiring with aliens and whatever nightcreature was available.
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Cigarette Smoking Man, as has been pointed out. In the series "The X Files" he and Fox Mulder would have run ins. CSM was a major leader of the evil conspiracy of the dark siders ....Bilderbergs, Trilateralwhatevers that were conspiring with aliens and whatever nightcreature was available.
No, no. Just the aliens. He didn't have any conspiracies with bigfoot.
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Tapes ?
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I had a thought.
Comey was apparently in California when he got surprised by the firing. Did they make him pay for a ticket back to DC since he wasn't on the payroll anymore?
Generally the entity has to pay for travel back to the location they sent a person before releasing them. Or get sued if they don't. On "business travel", the entity is liable for basically anything that happens to the person while traveling because they are doing so at the entity's behalf. Different insurance stuff happens. He'd be covered by workman's comp and work travel insurance until he arrives back. If someone has a company car and you fire them, they're also covered until they drop off. Smart employers gently repo the car and hire a driving service for the employee.
At this level of government, it's a bit more of a wildcard.
At Sikorsky, we ran into this issue when they laid a guy off while he was in Qatar. Lot of angry discussions with HR got his card turned back on until he got home.
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Tapes ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4499790/Trump-warns-Comey-tapes-talks.html
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No, no. Just the aliens. He didn't have any conspiracies with bigfoot.
How do you know? Perhaps he was better at keeping that conspiracy a secret ....... >:D [tinfoil]
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Not even Vice President Mike Pence was spared the embarrassment of having told a version of events that was later discredited by Trump.
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If you're gonna send people out with talking points, at least get the President to stick to them. At least for a day or two.
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If you're gonna send people out with talking points, at least get the President to stick to them. At least for a day or two.
THAT'S NO FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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At Sikorsky, we ran into this issue when they laid a guy off while he was in Qatar. Lot of angry discussions with HR got his card turned back on until he got home.
OK, I can understand if it's a RFN termination because he peed in a client's punchbowl, but for a layoff, (which presumably wasn't a spur of the moment decision) wouldn't it have made a lot more sense to send him back to his hometown (or at least the right continent) on whatever pretext and then tell him he's being let go?
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Is it ok to be happy Comey is gone just because his demand for backdoors to encryption was so wrong even though I doubt our government in general understands it?
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/after-huge-global-cyberattack-countries-scramble-halt-spread-ransomware-n759121
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He has declined to be identified in the media, but was described by the Guardian as a 22-year-old from southwest England who lives with his parents.
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Sooooo, one of those GD millennials stopped the cyber attack? I thought they were all good for nothing lay abouts? :laugh:
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Is it ok to be happy Comey is gone just because his demand for backdoors to encryption was so wrong even though I doubt our government in general understands it?
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/after-huge-global-cyberattack-countries-scramble-halt-spread-ransomware-n759121
It's okay by me. You have my permission to be happy.
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I am sort of amazed at the attempts at reasonable discussions that are occurring about the machinations of our government. Especially since it's has been crystal clear for four decades how much deeper the roots of corruption and self serving hypocrisy have become and are proceeding at ever increasing speeds.