Crusaders plan to bomb Somali immigrants in Kansas

[MillCreek]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/14/498013572/three-men-charged-with-plotting-attack-on-somali-immigrants-in-kansas?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2040

Calling your group 'the Crusaders' lacks a certain subtlety.

[RoadKingLarry]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/14/498013572/three-men-charged-with-plotting-attack-on-somali-immigrants-in-kansas?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2040

Calling your group 'the Crusaders' lacks a certain subtletyhint of intelligence.

FTFY

[Andiron]

Friggin Leeroy Jenkins gang.

Not that I'm rooting for them,  but how hard is it to STFU about the crime you plan on committing?  3 guys probably told everyone down at the Eagles that their snappily named little gang of vigilantes was out to kill them some mooslimbs.

[MikeB]

Friggin Leeroy Jenkins gang.

Not that I'm rooting for them,  but how hard is it to STFU about the crime you plan on committing?  3 guys probably told everyone down at the Eagles that their snappily named little gang of vigilantes was out to kill them some mooslimbs.

Or like the playbook from the 90's it was actually the ATF/FBI/other .gov alphabet agency that suggested and helped them plan ...

Moving on, does this really qualify as a WMD thing? I'm not trying to minimize the seriousness of what they were apparently attempting, but aren't WMD's like Nuclear weapons, Chemical weapons and the like? Not just large conventional explosives? Seems like another example of where laws are implemented for one thing and then applied to others as governmental are wont to do and many warn against when laws are passed. That governments tend to stretch definitions of laws they pass.

[Scout26]

Gun banners have recently (the last year or more) begun to refer to any rifle that holds more than X (roughly > 5-10) rounds as "WMD's".  So basically anything more capable than a Boy Scout Pocket Knife (and even that is up for grabs) is considered by the Anti's as a "WMD". 

[grampster]

A tad off the subject.  The way crap is going today with this situation, immigration invasion in general, the election for president, colleges and schools, collapse of the family, coarsening of cultures....oh, heck, the world in general, I think I may have been killed or died of some disease or accident and am in Purgatory.

[BobR]

Real Crusaders would have gone in there with swords, lances and possibly a Mace in case the Muslims were wearing armor.  Some Crusaders these guys were.


bob

[HankB]

. . .  3 guys probably told everyone down at the Eagles that their snappily named little gang of vigilantes was out to kill them some mooslimbs.

Maybe they bragged about their plans on Facebook.

[Perd Hapley]

Calling your group 'the Crusaders' lacks a certain subtlety hint of intelligence.

Um, you guys realize that "Crusaders" has been used for a lot of things other than medieval adventuring in the mid-East, right? 

[brimic]

Or like the playbook from the 90's it was actually the ATF/FBI/other .gov alphabet agency that suggested and helped them plan ...

Agent provocateurs... I recall the FBI providing fake bomb materials to a group a year or two back that were plotting to blow up a bridge- pretty good way to catch people in the act.

[MillCreek]

Um, you guys realize that "Crusaders" has been used for a lot of things other than medieval adventuring in the mid-East, right? 

Well, my favorite, of course, is the Vought F-8, popularly known as 'The Last of the Gunfighters': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F-8_Crusader.  But I suspect the yahoos in Kansas were not old Navy pilots.

[Perd Hapley]

Well, my favorite, of course, is the Vought F-8, popularly known as 'The Last of the Gunfighters': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F-8_Crusader.  But I suspect the yahoos in Kansas were not old Navy pilots.

Or they wanted to legalize alcoholic beverages?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crusaders_(repeal_of_alcohol_prohibition)

Or they were fans of one of several rugby teams, or music groups?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader

Or they saw themselves as being like the thousands of other people that have been called "crusaders," for advancing one cause or another?

[TommyGunn]

Um, you guys realize that "Crusaders" has been used for a lot of things other than medieval adventuring in the mid-East, right? 

Yes!  I too, have fond memories of "Crusader Rabbit" from my youth.

[BobR]

I know, they were a bunch of disgruntled British sports car fans who have never gotten over the fact the Clan Crusader never sold enough copies to make well known throughout the land(any land), so they adopted the name. 


bob

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