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« on: April 25, 2006, 03:05:18 PM »
Mr. Davenport needs a real job, I think.

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URL: http://www.independentmail.com/and/home/article/0,1886,AND_8195_4641568,00.html
Bill would make sale of sex toys illegal in South Carolina
By SEANNA ADCOX
The Associated Press
April 21, 2006

COLUMBIA  Lucys Love Shop employee Wanda Gillespie said she was flabbergasted that South Carolinas Legislature is considering outlawing sex toys.But banning the sale of sex toys is actually quite common in some Southern states.

The South Carolina bill, proposed by Republican Rep. Ralph Davenport, would make it a felony to sell devices used primarily for sexual stimulation and allow law enforcement to seize sex toys from raided businesses.

That would be the most terrible thing in the world, said Ms. Gillespie, an employee the Anderson shop. That is just flabbergasting to me. We are supposed to be in a free country, and were supposed to be adults who can decide what want to do and dont want to do in the privacy of our own homes.

Ms. Gillespie, 49, said she has worked in the store for nearly 20 years and has seen people from every walk of life, including every Sunday churchgoers.

I know of multiple marriages that sex toys have sold because some people need that. The people who are riding us (the adult novelty industry) so hard are probably at home buying it (sex toys and novelties) on the Internet. Its ridiculous.
The measure would add sex toys to the states obscenity laws, which already prohibit the dissemination and advertisement of obscene materials.

People convicted under obscenity laws face up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

South Carolina law borrows from a 1973 U.S. Supreme Court ruling to define obscene as something contemporary community standards determine as patently offensive sexual conduct, which lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

Sugar N Spice manager Pat Irons says a proposal to outlaw the sale of sex toys in South Carolina is outrageous.

While Davenports proposal is probably aimed at shutting down X-rated adult bookstores, Ms. Irons said, it hurts customers of couples-oriented stores such as her West Columbia shop, which sells everything from lingerie to bridal shower novelties to lotions.

At Sugar N Spice, sex toys are displayed in a separate room. Buyers include men and women who need a little help because surgery or medical problems are affecting their marriage, Ms. Irons said.

Weve been selling these sex toys for 27 years, she said Friday. Even pastors shop in here. They send couples in here they counsel for marriage problems. Its probably going to hit people like that harder than people realize.

A Townville sex shop owner questioned the proposals legality.

I dont think that would be fair, said John Terezakis, owner of Paradise! in Townville. Its depriving people of their freedom of choice. I dont think the customers would appreciate it very much.

Rep. Davenport, who is from Spartanburg County, did not return several messages Friday to talk about his bill, which was introduced last month. No other legislator has signed on as a co-sponsor and its passage this year seems unlikely.

Recent police raids in Rep. Davenports county have targeted adult-oriented businesses.

The sheriffs office there seized movies, sex toys, sexual-enhancement pills and surveillance tapes from two businesses in January.

One of the stores, Priscillas, sued the sheriffs office, claiming the raid violated constitutional rights and asked for the return of the seized items. Sheriff Chuck Wright refused.

The case has not yet gone to trial, Maj. Dan Johnson said.

Maj. Johnson said he knew nothing of Rep. Davenports proposal and was unsure how it could help their investigations, which involve undercover detectives renting movies or buying magazines and prosecutors determining whether theyre obscene.

Were focused on the hard-core magazines, videos & the hard-core porn, he said.

Other states that ban the sell of sex toys include Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and Texas, said Mark Lopez, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union.

Alabamas law banning the sale of sex toys has been circulating through the courts since its passage in 1998. U.S. District Judge Lynwood Smith Jr. twice ruled against the law, holding that it violated the constitutional right to privacy, but the state won both times on appeal.

In February 2005, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the case, which is back in the lower courts.

People think its distasteful. It makes for good campaign fodder and panders to the conservative side of people. Thats why we see the laws in the South, Mr. Lopez said.

The ACLU got involved in the case, he said, to keep the government out of the bedroom.

Though the laws dont punish people for owning sex toys, banning their sale is a backdoor attempt to discourage their use, Mr. Lopez said.

People have a fundamental right to engage in lawful sexual practices in the privacy of their home, Mr. Lopez said. Its not like this stuff is available in Macys. Kids arent allowed in. You or I wouldnt accidentally walk into one.

Anderson Independent-Mail reporter Samantha Epps contributed to this story.

Copyright 2006, Anderson Independent Mail. All Rights Reserved.

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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2006, 03:11:27 PM »
Christo-fascists on the march again, as if there weren't more important issues for the legislature to deal with. rolleyes
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2006, 03:11:38 PM »
And I'm ranting about childrens rights.  Seems no matter what you get screwed *ba-dum-tish* by politicians.

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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2006, 03:27:26 PM »
That's why I couldn't be a congressman.  I would get barred for making fun of and raising hell with all of the congresspeople that wasted time on really stupid crap like that.  If you want to see something about as bad, check out the Texas statute I posted in this thread:  
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/viewtopic.php?id=3102

Oh, we also have an official state vehicle - the chuckwagon!?!?  How long did it take a congressional committee to agree on that?  How many chuckwagons have you seen rolling up and down I-35?
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2006, 05:40:15 PM »
Crap like this is going to result in handing the country over to the liberals for the next 30 years. Im not even sure thats a bad thing at this point.

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2006, 06:30:27 PM »
Outrageous Sad  must be no other problems for these underworked politicians to solve

AFAIK, some of my ancestors lived in Spartanburg County a couple hundred years ago - I hope I'm not related to this jerk.

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2006, 07:04:35 PM »
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Maj. Johnson said he knew nothing of Rep. Davenports proposal and was unsure how it could help their investigations, which involve undercover detectives renting movies or buying magazines and prosecutors determining whether theyre obscene.

Were focused on the hard-core magazines, videos & the hard-core porn, he said.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2006, 08:24:38 PM »
I can hear the rallying cry now:

"They can have my dildoes when they pry them from my hot, wet hands!"  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2006, 02:15:02 AM »
I happen to live near Mr. Davenport's district.  You will notice that no other representative has signed on to support this bill as far as I know.

I predict that this bill will die of benign neglect.  He has been known to make a lot of noise about what most people would consider senseless issues.  I can't say that I know him well enough to be able to identify the source of his frustration.

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2006, 03:24:59 AM »
The fundamentalists are doing more damage to the once-conservative Republican party than Jane Fonda, John Kerry, and Teddy Kennedy could do in a lifetime.

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2006, 08:12:44 AM »
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Mr. Davenport needs a real job, I think.
People like this go into public service because they don't possess even 1/10 of the work ethic of a kid manning the cash register at a Taco Bell.
Your secretary is not a graphic designer, and Microsoft Word is not adequate for print design.

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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2006, 08:19:26 AM »
The thing with having a standing legislature is that you have full time lawmakers. They make. laws. over. and. over. again.

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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2006, 09:43:55 AM »
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Mr. Davenport needs a real job, I think.
People like this go into public service because they don't possess even 1/10 of the work ethic of a kid manning the cash register at a Taco Bell.
Mr. Davenport's profile on the SC Legislature online site
http://www.scstatehouse.net/members/bios/0454545400.html

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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2006, 10:57:53 AM »
A former Real Esate agent.

That really explains a lot.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2006, 12:25:21 PM »
Hmmm.  I hadn't heard about our "State Vehicle", the chuckwagon.  Oh, well.  Just shows to go ya.

They interpreted the Texas Constitution all wrong.  They keep saying the legislature meets 140 days every two years.  That's a misprint.  It's supposed to be two days every 140 years.

I dunno why people get all exercised about sex.  It's really simple enough.  "Insert Tab A into Slot B.  Repeat as necessary."

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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2006, 01:08:51 PM »
I think that we would be a lot better off if we could separate political conservativism from religious extremism. As it is now neither of the two primary political parties can be accused of being in favor of freedom. We are just voting for different brands of control.

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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2006, 01:11:55 PM »
Quote from: Art Eatman
They interpreted the Texas Constitution all wrong.  They keep saying the legislature meets 140 days every two years.  That's a misprint.  It's supposed to be two days every 140 years.
Now that would be ideal!

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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2006, 01:42:51 PM »
I don't understand why Christians get all worked up about sex.  As a Christian myself, I believe God created us, so he had to create sex.  What's the harm in enjoying it?

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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2006, 02:09:10 PM »
If you thought the war on drugs was a spectacular failure, wait until the war on the most powerful driving instinct in the human race. That'll go much better! rolleyes
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2006, 05:34:24 PM »
A crackdown on "adult" stores is a war on sex?  


"Christo-fascists"?  "Fundamentalists"?  "religious extremism?"  Who is claiming to be a Christian here, and more importantly, where do they claim a religious basis for their actions?
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« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2006, 05:45:50 PM »
Hey Texans,

Do you know who invented the chuckwagon?

If you know anything about the history of your state, you might have heard of the guy...

Charles Goodnight.

If you know anything about Goodnight and his partner, Oliver Loving, you'll see where a LOT of the inspiration for Lonesome Dove originated...
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2006, 02:58:45 AM »
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A crackdown on "adult" stores is a war on sex?  


"Christo-fascists"?  "Fundamentalists"?  "religious extremism?"  Who is claiming to be a Christian here, and more importantly, where do they claim a religious basis for their actions?
This type of legislation usually emmanates from the above list of usual suspects and those who pander to them. There's no reason to believe it's any different this time.
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2006, 03:42:05 AM »
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A crackdown on "adult" stores is a war on sex?  


"Christo-fascists"?  "Fundamentalists"?  "religious extremism?"  Who is claiming to be a Christian here, and more importantly, where do they claim a religious basis for their actions?
This type of legislation usually emmanates from the above list of usual suspects and those who pander to them. There's no reason to believe it's any different this time.
I would identify myself as somewhat of a fundamentalist and disagree with the idea that all anti-porn comes just from Christianity.  Personally, I think what people do with sex toys (or porn) is their own business and I honestly don't care.  In all my years of going to church I have yet to hear a sermon on the "evils of porn" or even a discussion on it.  I am sure there are some, but I doubt it is as wide spread as you think.
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2006, 03:44:17 AM »
I dunno why people get all exercised about sex.  It's really simple enough.  "Insert Tab A into Slot B.  Repeat as necessary."





"...exercised" is quite apt, Art.



And what about the "buy  ammo" part?  Buy dildoes and ticklers?  Condoms?    Tongue




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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2006, 04:01:47 AM »
The first version of Prohibition was so much fun, we're doing it all over again!
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