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Wargs in Idaho
« on: January 12, 2012, 10:12:50 AM »
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/idwolves.asp
I got an email on this with some pictures of apparently oversize wolves killed in Idaho. I figured since a few of you are from up that way, you might shed some light on this.  Snopes had the email and pictures, but no information.  

I was always under the impression that wolves were big for wild canines, but still smaller and leaner than the larger breeds of dogs.  I guess it could be perspective, but these pictures would have you thinking there are 250 lb wolves running around.  Could just be smaller men in the pictures.

The snopes site has a few more pictures.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 10:23:00 AM »
it appears at the least the email lies about where they were killed.  that said 9 foot from nose to tip of tail is not unheard of in wolves. with the tail being 25 to 30 percent as long as the body
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 10:26:28 AM »
the pics are from canada and were shot in 2009

they used to be up on the guide companys website

IIRC, they were 215 pounders
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 10:33:13 AM »
Quote from: Harold Tuttle on January 12, 2012, 10:26:28 AM
the pics are from canada and were shot in 2009

they used to be up on the guide companys website

IIRC, they were 215 pounders

To put that in perspective, I have come across great danes in the 130-140lb range.

~100 more pounds is one big honking canine.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 10:48:32 AM »
wolves trigger a primal fear/panic  as is shown here
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=635051&page=5

lots of "interesting folks"
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 10:48:59 AM »
Not sure what the dog weighed but an uncle used to have a German Shepard that when he stood on his hind legs could look over the top of my uncle's head, and my uncle stands 6'4".  The dog used to play with bricks, you throw them and he would chase them down and bring them to you.  But the trick was to throw them high enough for him to catch them before they hit the ground.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 11:13:31 AM »
I hadn't heard of wolves topping 200 lbs.  How common is that?
I knew they were long and lean, but didn't realize they were that hefty.  

I knew well fed dogs grew bigger on average, but I thought the wild wolves were generally smaller.  I guess it depends on where and what food supply they have.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 11:44:59 AM »
The wolves transplanted to Jellystone in the 1990s were the larger Canadian timber wolves, not the extinct RM variety.

So wolves in MT/ID/WY could very well be that big.  =(
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 11:53:44 AM »
I've seen wolves in the wild that I would estimate topped 150lbs. (No scales handy)  I saw one watching my dog team sleep that, when sitting down, had a head even with my chest.  I'm 5'11", so figure eyes 4"6" off the ground or so.  Wolves are, by and large, much larger then dogs.  I know that wild wolves are somewhat hard to find, but if you see them in the wild, you'll never confuse them with a large dog.

That said those Canadian wolves are pretty damn big.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 12:07:05 PM »
Side note, the image you linked to looks like this to me:



You may want to avoid hotlinking in the future.  I like tinypic - it's free and no registration is required.  Some sites replace hotlinked images with... much more disturbing content.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2012, 02:11:11 PM »
It was working at first.  I'll just remove the picture link.  You can check out the snopes link for the pics.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 04:25:10 PM »
found it:  http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=34797



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saw that wolf in person when i was at trophy book archery a few weeks back
he shot it over a bear bait with a 30-06.....took a quick weight and it came in over 230 lbs
shot near edson

i guess the bugger managed to come in and chase off a 6'+ blackie
all on video too

i heard all that first hand from the shooter and couple of his buddies....never did get to see the video but i saw the wolf...its no joke
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 04:26:40 PM »
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2012, 05:30:42 PM »
Quote from: Harold Tuttle on January 12, 2012, 04:26:40 PM
http://www.trophybookarchery.com/



take a wolf that size with a bow?  you'd be the man!  forever
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 08:47:31 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 12, 2012, 05:30:42 PM
take a wolf that size with a bow?  you'd be the man!  forever

Meh. Some people hunt f'in Grizzlies with bows. Personally, I think they're nuts, but they could wear pink tutus while singing the lumberjack song and not get their man card revoked.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 08:55:24 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 12, 2012, 05:30:42 PM
take a wolf that size with a bow?  you'd be the man!  forever

Meh, hunt from a tree stand, wolves can't (usually) climb trees. Bears on the other hand can climb trees.
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 09:05:28 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on January 12, 2012, 08:55:24 PM
Meh, hunt from a tree stand, wolves can't (usually) climb trees. Bears on the other hand can climb trees.

We had a wolf-husky mix that climbed a tree trying to catch a squirrel  =D
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Re: Wargs in Idaho
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2012, 09:10:23 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on January 12, 2012, 09:05:28 PM
We had a wolf-husky mix that climbed a tree trying to catch a squirrel  =D


Bet a wolf trying to climb a tree will still be slow enough for someone in a tree stand (in that tree) to aim and loose a shot into said canine's face.

He'd still walk bowlegged, of course, I'm not trying to suggest otherwise.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2012, 09:25:47 AM »
See, if we allow just anybody and everybody to carry pointed sticks, the poor wittle wolfies will be endangered  :police:
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