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24 Redemption
« on: November 24, 2008, 10:55:26 AM »
Did anyone watch it last night? I think this is the first time I saw the UN portrayed on TV the way we usually talk about them here. Jack's lines to the UN wuss at the school were classic.

"Save the helmet for the parade"
"Get in the shelter with the rest of the children"

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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2008, 10:57:02 AM »
I've never been a fan.  The whole trample anyone and everyone's civil rights to get to the bad guy thing doesn't sit with me and I couldn't ignore it enough to watch.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2008, 11:13:55 AM »
This is the show where they torture a guy who is not the suspect and whom they know not to be the suspect because he may have sort of spoken to the suspect, once. A guy who is the son of the Secretary of Defense. When one of the agents suggests this is a bad idea, he gets brow-beaten.

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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2008, 11:47:16 AM »
The fictional show, yes.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 11:57:32 AM »
The fictional show, yes.

Which is exactly why it is disgusting. It promotes this sort of stuff deliberately, rather than depict some form of reality.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 12:21:34 PM »
Jesus Christ -- go start a politically oriented "I hate 24 thread" and quit mucking up mine. You guys don't have to be serious 24 hours a day.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 12:25:59 PM »
I couldn't watch it last night, so I'm going to have to catch up this evening.  Even though I know the show is a bit over the top, it's still awesome. 

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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 12:32:21 PM »
I would have watched it, but...


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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 01:06:17 PM »
I was disappointed nobody gave that Enfield MkIV a chance to speak.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 01:12:59 PM »
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Jesus Christ -- go start a politically oriented "I hate 24 thread" and quit mucking up mine. You guys don't have to be serious 24 hours a day.

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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 01:33:31 PM »
?? I didn't  even know it was on!!
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2008, 02:05:20 PM »
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I was disappointed nobody gave that Enfield MkIV a chance to speak.

Yeah, that was cool -- I was wondering which model it was.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 02:43:25 PM »
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2008, 03:49:42 PM »
Enjoyed the cutting remarks about the UN guy - best thing I saw in the movie.

And I see Jack still heals as fast as a Terminator. Notice when they put that hot panga on his face, you could hear the sizzle and see the steam rise . . . but, minutes later, no blisters, no charring.

And I found out that all you have to do is drive a bus off road a little, and it becomes INVISIBLE to baddies patrolling the road. YOU can see them from the bus windows clear as day, but the bus itself - gone.

I gave up at that point.  :rolleyes:
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 05:28:48 PM »
that reminds me, I swore to give it up last year after "expert" shooters run around with fingers on triggers and useless racking of slides to make dramatic points.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2008, 05:37:35 PM »
This is the show where they torture a guy who is not the suspect and whom they know not to be the suspect because he may have sort of spoken to the suspect, once. A guy who is the son of the Secretary of Defense. When one of the agents suggests this is a bad idea, he gets brow-beaten.



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Impressed yet befogged, they grasped at his vivid leading phrases, seeing only their surface meaning, and missing the deeper current of his thought.

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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2008, 05:51:27 PM »
Did anyone watch it last night? I think this is the first time I saw the UN portrayed on TV the way we usually talk about them here. Jack's lines to the UN wuss at the school were classic.

"Save the helmet for the parade"
"Get in the shelter with the rest of the children"

 :laugh:

Absolutely loved that part.  For me, the episode spend too much time setting up the next season and not enough time focusing on Jack Bauer kicking ass.  Still, a solid B.  Also, my TV is too small and grainy to tell, what pistols were in the episode?  Definitely weren't his usual HK, but I couldn't get enough of a look to tell anything more than black and polymer.

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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2008, 06:12:32 PM »
Yeah, would have liked to see more time in Africa fighting bad guys, less time in DC. I was thinking maybe Sigs, but I don't know my polymer pistols well enough to be sure.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2008, 06:22:45 PM »
more bad guys in dc
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2008, 07:27:38 PM »
Enjoyed the cutting remarks about the UN guy - best thing I saw in the movie.

And I see Jack still heals as fast as a Terminator. Notice when they put that hot panga on his face, you could hear the sizzle and see the steam rise . . . but, minutes later, no blisters, no charring.

And I found out that all you have to do is drive a bus off road a little, and it becomes INVISIBLE to baddies patrolling the road. YOU can see them from the bus windows clear as day, but the bus itself - gone.

I gave up at that point.  :rolleyes:

I'm willing to suspend my disbelief a little. those are well worn Hollywood conventions that I am willing to let them get away with. 




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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2008, 07:36:14 PM »
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Also, my TV is too small and grainy to tell, what pistols were in the episode?  Definitely weren't his usual HK, but I couldn't get enough of a look to tell anything more than black and polymer.

They looked like Glocks to me.
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2008, 01:37:58 AM »
Edited to remove serious material. 

They should do a scene where Jack Bauer uses a copy of the constitution to roll up some tobacco and smoke it in the field. 
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2008, 12:20:36 AM »
Edited to remove serious material. 

They should do a scene where Jack Bauer uses a copy of the constitution to roll up some tobacco and smoke it in the field. 


Dammit, there isn't enough time!
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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2008, 12:24:55 AM »
Dammit, there isn't enough time!


You're right, we need to fit it into the story line.  I'm thinking it calls for a scene like this:

Bauer learns that a high school teacher in the area just happens to teach the son of one of the shadowy terrorists.  Believing on a hunch that the teacher might have some information on the whereabouts of the boy, he charges in to ask.

When the civics teacher tells Bauer she's not answering any questions without a warrant or court order, Bauer rips the giant paper copy of the constitution off her chalkboard, wads it up, and shoves it down her throat to muffle the screams as he pours battery acid from his trusty ford on her arms.

Not only does she talk, it turns out she was having an affair with the terrorist himself and has the key to nukes hidden in her birkenstocks.

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Re: 24 Redemption
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2008, 06:51:30 AM »
I watched it last night, finally.  I'm really looking forward to the start of next season.  I'm hoping it ends up with Jack kicking the snot out of a few senators.  BTW, the comments to the U.N. guy were awesome.