Author Topic: A nightmare scenario for gun owners - McCain considers MIKE BLOOMBERG for VP?!  (Read 16766 times)

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And since there are no Texans running for President, I don't see anything coming up.

Really Huh? Where have you been?  laugh
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Right now we are an embattled minority trying to hold the fort.  If SCOTUS veers left we will be not only a minority but outside the law with our prime civil liberties likely stripped from us.

The romantics in our midst may see this as our heroic stand for liberty but if it comes down to that we are best off proposing secession or a semi-autonomous state.

We have to believe that McCain can be prevailed upon to not appoint liberal judges.  If we don't believe even that then there is no point in taking part in the political process at all.
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Oh...Supreme Court...forgot about that.  D'OH!!!!

Sooooo....what can we do to ensure that McCain picks a BETTER running mate?

That would mean just about anyone short of Paul Helmke or any other member of the Brady Campaign...Wink

I emailed the RNC and McCains campaign, I'd suggest everyone else do the same!

And I'm open to any OTHER ideas!

Hmmm...maybe emailing Obama and the DNC and begging THEM to snag Bloomberg first?  grin

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There are also the entitlements/taxes to consider.  Once an entitlement is given, it is very very unlikely to ever be removed.  Imagine the social programs that Obama will embark on.  Remember, he knows how to spend your money much better than you do.  He's already talking about removing the SS cap, allowing the tax cuts to die, letting the capital gains tax go back up over 20%.  And these are just the things he's admitted to when asked in debates and interviews.  These aren't actual policy positions.

This cat is a hardcore socialist.  He's going to make FDR and LBJ look like Reagan.
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And since there are no Texans running for President, I don't see anything coming up.

Really Huh? Where have you been?  laugh

It's a joke. I am paraphrasing Gov. Rick Perry, of course.
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I think y'all can forget McCain nominating any judges that we'd like to see. He's already said that he's gonna cross the aisle and work WITH Democrats, and we know that he means it because that's what he does. So if  the Democrats want another Souter or Ginsberg that's what he's gonna nominate, because anything else would be "needlessly partisan" IIRC.

Face it. There are going to be two far-left Democrats running for President, the only difference is that one gets campaign money from the Republican Party.

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Right now we are an embattled minority trying to hold the fort.  If SCOTUS veers left we will be not only a minority but outside the law with our prime civil liberties likely stripped from us.

The romantics in our midst may see this as our heroic stand for liberty but if it comes down to that we are best off proposing secession or a semi-autonomous state.

We have to believe that McCain can be prevailed upon to not appoint liberal judges.  If we don't believe even that then there is no point in taking part in the political process at all.

Well, romantic or not, I wonder:

We're fighting so hard to get a government (meaning, in this case, Supreme Court Justices) which will support our right to keep and bear arms - a right which is used to stand up to government if the need arises.

It just seems like a strange cycle after a while, because we really wouldn't need the 2nd Amendment if we always had a government that was our friend.

Believe it or not, the SCOTUS is NOT the final check and balance. There is a candidate in the fog who is trying to unite the country on a "romantic" message of "liberty" (which everyone, democrat, or republican, or whatever, should, theoretically find appealing), but we're burning that message in order to elect a slightly favorable candidate with a small chance to appoint pro-2A Supreme Court justices, who will not take our guns (because taking our guns would thereby weaken our ability to stand up for our liberties).

Strange cycles, I tell ya.


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I can not vote for a Blooming idiot, if that jerk is on the ticket I am voting libertarian or constitution party, and changing party registration as well.
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Maybe this is the election where we put to rest the idea that we are a nation run by two political parties. Finally we get to see we are run by one party; one side dresses out in shirts and the other in skins.  Elections are not so much games as scrimmages.  Outcome determined not by the best team but by coaches and owners.

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McCain has enough problems with conservatives in the Republican Party.  It's highly unlikely that he's gonna choose a running mate that is further to the left than he is. 
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. . .  Imagine the social programs that Obama will embark on.  Remember, he knows how to spend your money much better than you do.  He's already talking about removing the SS cap, allowing the tax cuts to die, letting the capital gains tax go back up over 20% . . .
There's more . . .  including social programs welfare for the world.

B. Hussein Obama has endorsed a UN position that the USA ought to devote a fixed percentage of it's GNP (or is it GDP these days?) to "combat world poverty." The numbers B. Hussein Obama has supported would cost the USA $845,000,000,000.00 over the first five years . . . that's our tax money simply given to international bureaucracies to distribute to foreign countries.  angry

If you think the GOP under Bush has been fiscally irresponsible . . . just WAIT for a B. Hussein Obama presidency, 'cause you ain't seen NOTHIN' yet.
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McCain has enough problems with conservatives in the Republican Party.  It's highly unlikely that he's gonna choose a running mate that is further to the left than he is.

I agree with you in principle and the fact that your statement is rational. If you peruse many of the "conservative" web forums, blogs, etc. though, you find people who thing Bloomberg is just a great Republican. Typically it's people with the "necon" philosophy, who care not much more for the Bill of Rights than the left wing statists do.

I'm already on the fence about voting for McCain using the "best of the bad choices" strategy or writing in a candidate. Bloomberg as VP would guarantee I do the latter.

If that were the running ticket, I would actually prefer Obama win the election. The McCain ticket would (may do so whoever his VP is) just keep us on the "frog in the slowly heating pot" road. Incremental losses that everyone just shrugs off until they pile up and it's too late. Obama would be the already boiling pot of water that voters get dropped into, and once they realize they're getting burned, they'll react. If Obama gets in, I predict that in two or four years the House and Senate will become STRONGLY Republican, and that party leaders will get the stones to return to some basic conservative principles.
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McCain has enough problems with conservatives in the Republican Party.  It's highly unlikely that he's gonna choose a running mate that is further to the left than he is. 

There you go - thinking logically again  rolleyes  shocked
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McCain has enough problems with conservatives in the Republican Party.  It's highly unlikely that he's gonna choose be able to find a running mate that is further to the left than he is. 

FTFY. sad
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If he picked up a capable woman and Obama does not pick Hillary, he could pick up all the disgruntled Hillary supporters who are screaming about glass ceilings.

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If he picked up a capable woman and Obama does not pick Hillary, he could pick up all the disgruntled Hillary supporters who are screaming about glass ceilings.

Condi Rice ...?
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If he picked up a capable woman and Obama does not pick Hillary, he could pick up all the disgruntled Hillary supporters who are screaming about glass ceilings.

Condi Rice ...?
Too much Bush baggage IMO, and since Obama is [half] black and a democrat, he can smear her all he wants without the MSM calling it racist; and we've already seen that claims of racism>claims of sexism in importance.

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If he picked up a capable woman and Obama does not pick Hillary, he could pick up all the disgruntled Hillary supporters who are screaming about glass ceilings.

Condi Rice ...?

Political death wish......better try Sarah Palin or Kay Bailey Hutchison....
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McCain already wish-washy liberal policies with the gun grabbing Bloomy as his second would be just as pure poison as Obama or Hillary.  And if the country has to get poisoned, I want everyone to know it was the Dems doing it.
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If BHO picks Webb and Juan picks Bloomie, I'll vote for BHO and hope something happens to him.
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Too much Bush baggage

And Bomb-bomb McCain doesn't have too much Bush baggage already ?  rolleyes
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Too much Bush baggage

And Bomb-bomb McCain doesn't have too much Bush baggage already ?  rolleyes
McCain has gone against Bush on a few occasions, while Condi has worked for him for 8 years.  The claim could/probably would be made that she was part of the supposed coverup that got us into Iraq.

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Condi Rice overstayed her job; she has probably queered any chance she might have had for higher office down the road by identifying herself so closely with W.  But in any case she has needed to show she can win elective office and then manifest executive skills.  Right now she is just another academic who got appointed to a high bureaucratic job by having the right connections.  Her performance as Secretary of State has been underwhelming.  You need more than a carry permit and pianistic prowess.
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Condi Rice overstayed her job; she has probably queered any chance she might have had for higher office down the road by identifying herself so closely with W.  But in any case she has needed to show she can win elective office and then manifest executive skills.  Right now she is just another academic who got appointed to a high bureaucratic job by having the right connections.  Her performance as Secretary of State has been underwhelming.  You need more than a carry permit and pianistic prowess.

I keep saying she failed upwards.

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McCain has enough problems with conservatives in the Republican Party.  It's highly unlikely that he's gonna choose a running mate that is further to the left than he is.
Keep in mind that McCain has earned a reputation as a maverick for a reason.