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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on November 03, 2010, 12:52:02 AM
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What? No one has started one yet?
How did things go in your neck of the woods?
Sucked here.
Moonbeam Brown is back in as Governor. That was kinda expected.
What's not expected is that it looks like Boxer survived. It's currently 48% to 48%, but Fox News is calling it for Boxer. I've been checking live links of local news websites, mostly all very left leaning (it's all we got). It appears Proposition 19 (legalizing marijuana), did us in. Although it looks like it's going to lose by a wide margin, local reports are that it brought the college kids and other young adults who otherwise wouldn't have voted, out in droves. They are attributing Boxer's likely save of her seat to the "yes on 19" voters.
Local Democratic Congresswoman is back in but not by much. Also expected. It looks like there is good evidence of voter fraud in the local university housing community though. There's photographic evidence via the Republican candidate's poll watchers of people taking ballots outside the designated polling place and bringing them back in later. The local election watchdog agency (liberal) is denying it.
Her opponent was an ex-fighter jock who served in Vietnam. Some of the comments I've been reading about him on the local news sites are disgusting. Commenters all claim he doesn't deserve to win because he's "on the government dole". They're claiming that the military is like welfare, because he got his college degree via the GI Bill, has a military retirement, and gets health insurance via the military.
Nobody says anything bad about the incumbent, who got elected on the sympathy vote after her husband died in office.
Oh well. Looks like I'll need to see what guns I want before some new state laws likely go into effect. Also where to hide my money when State taxes start going up like crazy.
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All bow to the mad photo-shop-ness.
What? No one has started one yet?
Dude, seriously? There are like twain of them.
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I'm still in the learning phase here in AL, but it looks like Republicans gained some ground. I went from having a Dem congressman to a Republican, which makes me happy. Another Republican governor, but I wasn't surprised, as the Democrat was proposing legalizing gambling to fund the state government. This is Bible country, and gambling isn't looked upon favorably.
I just read that the Republicans picked up both the senate and assembly, as well as the governor's office, in Wisconsin. It's payback time for the NRA. Wisconsin had better get one of the best shall-issue CCW bills ever written after all of the work gun owners did for the Republicans there.
Obama's old senate seat went to a Republican! My guess is that Obama's ego won't allow him to see the true significance of that.
It's a good evening for Republicans. Not as good as some had predicted, but I think some journalists and commentators were a bit too optimistic.
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All bow to the mad photo-shop-ness.
Dude, seriously? There are like twain of them.
I meant an aggregate one discussing results as they occur.
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1108685&page=28
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It's a good evening for Republicans. Not as good as some had predicted, but I think some journalists and commentators were a bit too optimistic.
Indeed. I wish some of them wouldn't have rattled on about the thrashing the dems would take. Better to talk small and gain big than vice versa.
I'm just ticked about the CA Senate seat. Governor is an internal thing CA brings on itself. I was really hoping we could buck up just once and help out the country by dumping at least one of our worthless Senators, and of the two, Boxer is the worst.
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Obama's old senate seat went to a Republican! My guess is that Obama's ego won't allow him to see the true significance of that.
It's simply an anti-incumbent atmosphere. It's got nothing to do with dissatisfaction with Obama or the Dem-majority Congress, which is why so many Republicans lost their seats this time around. :P
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Obama's old senate seat went to a Republican! My guess is that Obama's ego won't allow him to see the true significance of that.
Yeah, baby. In other news from Illinois, voters approved a measure to allow recalls of governors. What a shock! :lol: Speaking of Illinois governors, the race is tied right now.
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I'm still in the learning phase here in AL, but it looks like Republicans gained some ground. I went from having a Dem congressman to a Republican, which makes me happy. Another Republican governor, but I wasn't surprised, as the Democrat was proposing legalizing gambling to fund the state government. This is Bible country, and gambling isn't looked upon favorably.
I just read that the Republicans picked up both the senate and assembly, as well as the governor's office, in Wisconsin. It's payback time for the NRA. Wisconsin had better get one of the best shall-issue CCW bills ever written after all of the work gun owners did for the Republicans there.
Obama's old senate seat went to a Republican! My guess is that Obama's ego won't allow him to see the true significance of that.
It's a good evening for Republicans. Not as good as some had predicted, but I think some journalists and commentators were a bit too optimistic.
Yes, Wisconsin did VERY WELL tonight.
I hate to say it, but I'd like to see voter photo-ID passed before shall-issue CCW. Watching the woman in line in front of me throw out random names and spellings insisting she was on the list yesterday morning was not, shall we say, confidence inspiring.
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It's simply an anti-incumbent atmosphere. It's got nothing to do with dissatisfaction with Obama or the Dem-majority Congress, which is why so many Republicans lost their seats this time around.
Nope. It's racism. Eugene Robinson says so here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/01/AR2010110105086.html).
He even says that there's not a chance that it's coincidence that all of this ire is directed at the first black president. It's not about multi-trillion-dollar deficits, or Obama cramming health care down our throats, or trying to turn the US into France. It's just plain old bubba-style (without the KKK bedsheets) racism from a hundred million or so hayseeds who went to vote.
AJ, I would think voter ID will pass easily. The more difficult task will be to get "moderate" Republicans to stop trying to water down the CCW bill.
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No surprises in the Sooner state.
We did pass a "Screw Obamacare" law though. One more state to add to the list when it goes to court.
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It's simply an anti-incumbent atmosphere. It's got nothing to do with dissatisfaction with Obama or the Dem-majority Congress, which is why so many Republicans lost their seats this time around.
Disagree. Incumbent Republicans lost their seats because they were paler versions, ideologically speaking of course, of Obama. This Election was a repudiation of Obamaism. Unfortunately, the repudiation (as in my home state, CA) wasn't total or final, just a first step. The real fun and games begin now. I wish I believed that the national divisions would be or could be resolved politically; my view is that the demographic and cultural divide is now too deep for facile reconciliation and that the next couple of years will bear that out. I'm wagering the rifts become wider and more acrimonious. Obama's push for an amnesty, among other things, won't help.
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I just got home and checked the news sites over here. Picture of Obama at the top. To say that he's looking unhappy would be an understatement :laugh: =D.
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In AL, not a single Dem won a state-wide race. That's huge. We tend to be conservative but Dem here in local elections. The Reps have both houses of the Legislature since Reconstruction.
On the other hand... Harry Reid won. DAMNNIT!!!!!!
I guess I am suffering from over-the-top expectations. At worst, the Senate seems to be 53-47 (counting on the winner in AK to caucus w/ the Reps), and at best 51-49. My guess is that Murray survives.
I don't expect the Brady Bunch to be too happy about now. At least we got that going for us...
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Just browsing the results, but SC looks to have done fairly well. Haley was behind when I turned in last night but only five counties had fully reported.
Though I am still trying to figure out HOW IN THE HELL GREENE GOT 27% in the senate race.
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Pretty much all Republican victories in Texas....future President Rick Perry won....and Chet "Pelosi's Favorite" Edwards is out....
....but Eddie Bernice Johnson is still in...even after co-opting a scholarship fund to give to her friends & family only....maybe the LEO's investigating it will do what the voters in that district wouldn't....talk about a district that needs gerrymandering.... ;/
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I tolded you so. :cool:
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=20865.msg396356#msg396356
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Indiana had some good results. Baron Hill lost his job but dammit Andre carson held on to his grandmothers seat that he inherited.
Looks like the extremly short sighted 1-2-3 property tax caps are on their way to the state constitution.
Oh what I'd do for an across the board sales tax and the elimination of property tax. Now the dang stuff is gonna be all up in the state constitution.
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@ Fistful
Did you make it out to vote?
How was the line?
DD
<snicker>
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Dude, it was so cool. I was first! I'm so totally pumped!
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Overall election assessment: Yahoo!
Here in OH, we will have a Republican governor!
Oh, and Nancy Pelosi, the Wicked Witch of the West is OUT!!!!
Thanl you, God!
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I was first! I'm so totally pumped!
First?? Really?? No wonder you're pumped. I'd be broadcasting that all over APS!
Conflagellations!
DD
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How did things go in your neck of the woods?
Our mayor here was looking to unseat our US Rep. Down in flames. (Good!)
We have a new senator, with an R.(INO) after his name, who's only slightly less heinous than the D. would have been.
We don't know who our governor will be. A few thousand votes apart. I wouldn't be surprised to see a recount.
This would be Ill-i-noise.
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Illinois Guv race looking like the Chicago Dem is gonna edge out our good pro gun downstate repub candidate. On the bright side. Our Liberal Dem Congressman incumbant was trounced by a pro gun pro business, conservative Repub in the 17th district. yea!
F'n Chicago has screwed the whole state up. oh, but we sent some of them to Washington DC 2 years ago... so how d'you like them so far?
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Texas has improved - Gov. Rick Perry (he of coyote-shooting fame) won re-election handily, numerous state offices flipped from D to R, including my new state-representative-elect A-rated Paul Workman who defeated incumbent C-rated Valinda Bolton. =D
Sadly, "my" incumbent U.S. congressman, F-rated Lloyd Doggett (TX25) defeated a challenge from a good woman, A-rated Donna Campbell. =( Too many parasites from central Austin voting in his district for those of us stuck on the edge of his district to oust him. :mad:
Sadly too, Reid survived. :facepalm: Polls said he'd lose by 4%, he actually won by 5%. So much for the 3% margin of error claimed by pollsters.
U.S. House turned out about as expected - looks like around a 60 seat gain, give or take, with several more still too close to call. A pickup of 6 in the Senate, but we might get another one or two if we're lucky. (I thought we had 41 before? They're projecting 46 now - that's +5. Did I miss a special election going to a D- or something?)
Wonder if Murkowski will actually win AK with her write-in campaign . . . "Write in" is leading Joe Miller.
Overall, a good night, even if it wasn't quite the earthquake Dick Morris predicted.
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Illinois Guv race looking like the Chicago Dem is gonna edge out our good pro gun downstate repub candidate.
As of about midnight last night, that race was very close. It must have been hard for the Chicago poll workers to read the headstones in the dark.
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Honestly, if we weren't going to capture the Senate Reid surviving isn't the worst thing in the world. I would have dearly liked to see everyone central to Obamacare go down, sure. However...
Who here likes the sound of "Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer"? =|
And even if we attained 51 seats in the Senate, it wouldn't be enough to get veto overrides, stop fillibusters etc. The only big loss is the ability to block judicial appointments, and the Republicans being more "principled" about NOT applying the ideology litmus test, it does not matter that much anyway.
And not having both chambers of Congress means it's difficult to blame-shift back on Republicans come 2012.
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Very good points AJ.
It will be interesting though, to see what Obama does (or doesn't do) with the veto pen. When the local Dem congresscritter was giving her victory speech, she was telling her supporters not to worry about the Republican majority because Obama will use his veto powers.
I wonder if he will, at least in the next two years. Doing so could easily get him labeled an obstructionist (you know, that term used against Republicans the last two years) and very much hurt his re-election chances. If he does get elected to a second term, I could see him using the veto pen a lot.
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Very good points AJ.
It will be interesting though, to see what Obama does (or doesn't do) with the veto pen. When the local Dem congresscritter was giving her victory speech, she was telling her supporters not to worry about the Republican majority because Obama will use his veto powers.
I wonder if he will, at least in the next two years. Doing so could easily get him labeled an obstructionist (you know, that term used against Republicans the last two years) and very much hurt his re-election chances. If he does get elected to a second term, I could see him using the veto pen a lot.
I think the Dems still believe they can control the narrative and blame the Republicans. He's spent two years blaming Bush, so I don't see him realizing the blame game doesn't work for him.
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Though I am still trying to figure out HOW IN THE HELL GREENE GOT 27% in the senate race.
All the second and some of the first standard deviation on the left hand side of the bell curve?
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Honestly, if we weren't going to capture the Senate Reid surviving isn't the worst thing in the world. I would have dearly liked to see everyone central to Obamacare go down, sure. However...
Who here likes the sound of "Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer"? =|
And even if we attained 51 seats in the Senate, it wouldn't be enough to get veto overrides, stop fillibusters etc. The only big loss is the ability to block judicial appointments, and the Republicans being more "principled" about NOT applying the ideology litmus test, it does not matter that much anyway.
And not having both chambers of Congress means it's difficult to blame-shift back on Republicans come 2012.
I concur with AJ. As the Dems retained control of the Senate, Reid is extremely pro-2A. His other concerns are still concerns. But he is relatively sane (compared to the alternative), and his staff have been very good on keeping pro-2A groups up to date on legislation.
If the Republicans has the moral courage to put forth pro-2A legislation, Reid will most likely assist it as much or more than any Republican majority leader would.
At the moment, we have beautiful, beautiful gridlock. This is the optimal situation. Both parties, when they held exclusive majority of both houses and the Presidency, proved themselves thoroughly incompetent and corrupt. Having the politicians spending their days screaming at each other unable to accomplish relatively mundane work will keep both parties in check.
I'm quite pleased.
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And Minnesota once again has electile dysfunction. We are heading for a recount in the governor's race because my county reported more votes than there were voters. Looks like we're on the way to replace Florida as the butt of election jokes...
In other news, Republicans are surprised at wiping out Democrats in the state legislature.
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. . . We are heading for a recount in the governor's race because my county reported more votes than there were voters . . .
Wasn't that how Al Franken got elected?
I used to live in MN . . . is Mark Dayton your new governor-elect? Wasn't there a story some years back (when he was running for senator) that he needed some sort of prescription happy pills to stay functional?
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At the moment, we have beautiful, beautiful gridlock. This is the optimal situation. Both parties, when they held exclusive majority of both houses and the Presidency, proved themselves thoroughly incompetent and corrupt. Having the politicians spending their days screaming at each other unable to accomplish relatively mundane work will keep both parties in check.
While I would normally be in total agreement with the deliciousness of gridlock, I can't feel too great about it until Obamacare is repealed. Gridlock means that piece of trash legislation will still go into effect. Gridlock also means that the Bush tax cuts will expire, further weakening an already shaky economy.
If we can get a few key issues resolved, then I'm completely in favor of gridlock thereafter.
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While I would normally be in total agreement with the deliciousness of gridlock, I can't feel too great about it until Obamacare is repealed. Gridlock means that piece of trash legislation will still go into effect. Gridlock also means that the Bush tax cuts will expire, further weakening an already shaky economy.
If we can get a few key issues resolved, then I'm completely in favor of gridlock thereafter.
Obamacare would not get repealed until after 2012 when he's gone anyway. Even if the GOP had 51 seats in the Senate. So even if they'd taken the Senate, it would still have to be killed via clever de-funding in the House, and in the courts. 2/3rds veto-proof super-majorities were never in play here.
The fact that the 2000-odd page bill failed to include a severability clause is nice when it finally works it's way up to the SCOTUS. :facepalm: for them, and :laugh: for us.
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Wasn't that how Al Franken got elected?
And that's why I said "again"...
I used to live in MN . . . is Mark Dayton your new governor-elect?
That's just it. We don't know. The first count has him ahead by only 9000 or so votes, and that could be a mistake.
Wasn't there a story some years back (when he was running for senator) that he needed some sort of prescription happy pills to stay functional?
I know he is an alcoholic. Dunno about other stuff.
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Republicans took the House and the Senate in Maine. The Republican candidate, Paul LePage, was elected governor. Local elections were a little disappointing though.
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Brewer stayed on as Governor. McCain won easily. Only ones that worry/piss me off is district 8 and 9. Our district (8) has the pos Giffords. Her and Jesse Miller are tied. Other one is the arsehole Grijalva who called on a boycott of his own state. Only thing keeping him in is the Hispanic vote.
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Here in Illinois, we give stupid a whole new meaning.
The downstater's reversed the 2008 Obama gains by R's picking up what looks like 4 seats in the House.
Meanwhile in the senate, Kirk beat Obama's buddy to become Senator and immediately take the seat previously held by Rollie the Booh; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlZk1ZaslA Kirk is an anti-2A RINO who as Rep. voted for Cap and Tax along with TARP, both bailouts and the stimulus package. :facepalm:
The Governor's Race is within the margin of fraud, with Quinn (D-Blago) ahead at the moment by ~16,000 votes, with more votes waiting in Chicago to be found for him depending on how many of late military ballots get counted (Yep, we held our primary in February and still couldn't get the General Election ballots to the troops in time. :'( :facepalm: [ar15])
If Quinn wins, we'll be the first state to file for bankruptcy, yes, even before California. Will the last person out of Illinois please turn off the light.
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In the Oregon Governor's race, GOP nominee, and former Portland NBA Trailblazer, Chris Dudley will lose to former Governor John Kitzhaber. While Dudley still holds a slim lead, most of the remaining uncounted votes are from heavily Democratic Multnomah, Clackamas, Washington and Lane counties. The votes from Multnomah county are running 3-1 for Kitzhaber, and enough votes remain to be counted to put Kitzhaber over the top.
Kitzhaber previously served two lousy consecutive terms from 1995–2003, so of course Oregon will elect him again.
Edited to correct spelling and confirm Kitzhaber's win. Dudley has conceded.
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Here in Michigan, we replaced a liberal Canafornian, failed actress/governor with Republican businessman Rick Snyder. My district replaced an Obamaphile with a Republican retread (retook the seat which was taken from him last election).
Did anyone mention LTC Allen West won in Florida?
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I can't find where's it's mentioned but Alvin Green pulling 28% of the vote in SC, goes to show that 28% of the American public have no business in being allowed in the same building as a voting booth.
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I can't find where's it's mentioned but Alvin Green pulling 28% of the vote in SC, goes to show that 28% of the American public have no business in being allowed in the same building as a voting booth.
I am still trying to figure that one out.
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the local dem "krystal ball" only got 34%
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I am still trying to figure that one out.
I can't find the video now, but I saw one yesterday that was a clip from a local news station there. Green had a ginormous rented room with catered food. There were under ten people in it. The reporter kept trying to ask him questions and Green would keep grabbing food and putting it in his mouth so he wouldn't have to answer.
I felt kinda bad for laughing, because I still can't help but think (conspiracy hat on) that somebody was at least a little behind his campaign and somewhat set the poor guy up. Kinda like the mean kids in school that would play pranks on the short bus riders.
It still doesn't explain how over 300K people voted for him.
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It still doesn't explain how over 300K people voted for him.
I got one word for ya....StraightPartyLineVoting. It doesn't matter to some voters WHO is on the ballot. If Osama Bin Laden had been the Dem candidate, he'd have gotten ~ same number of votes.
That's about as true for Republicans, I'd bet.
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I'm just a few miles south of Ben's location in California, and I'm about to slit my wrists.
I cannot believe that my moronic fellow citizens just voted to change the requirement that to approve a budget the legislature now only needs a simple majority. Previously it needed 2/3 approval.
This state is doomed. The feds better not bail California out; this state needs to go bankrupt and start all over again.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
Sawdust
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BTW, did anyone figure out whether Patty Murray is headed back to the Senate from WA?
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BTW, did anyone figure out whether Patty Murray is headed back to the Senate from WA?
She will be. If she doesn't get enough votes out of King County to put her over the top, they can make more.
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This state is doomed. The feds better not bail California out; this state needs to go bankrupt and start all over again.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
Sawdust
Absolutely, 100% correct. The only way California can turn around is if it gets zero help from the rest of the country. We need a Greece-like failure that drives out all the people that came here for free handouts and peace and love, and wakes the rest of the state up that the San Francisco political philosophy is a failure.
Those of us that are self-reliant and responsible will face some hardship as well no doubt, but we can ride it out and in the end prosper if it results in a flip of the political demographics. Fat chance I know, but one can dream.
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It still doesn't explain how over 300K people voted for him.
I'm still wondering how Jerry Brown got nearly 1.2 million votes.
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Insolvency will not rid California of its vast illegal alien population unless we have radical change in D.C. at the highest levels and Americans grow up and recognize that their "compassion" is not only misplaced it's suicidal. They are here, they are coming, they are expecting "help," and they're pretty damn sure no one's going to expel them.
What you can expect in this state is out-migration by those who have given up waiting for sanity. This last election showed that the "San Francisco mentality" is alive, well, and still dominant in CA politics.