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Title: Home (In)Security
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 07, 2019, 11:42:07 AM

Family's Nest "security" system turned out to be ... not so secure.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/01/31/chicago-family-watched-nest-security-cameras/

Title: Re: Home (In)Security
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 07, 2019, 12:07:53 PM

Quote from: Hawkmoon on February 07, 2019, 11:42:07 AM

Family's Nest "security" system turned out to be ... not so secure.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/01/31/chicago-family-watched-nest-security-cameras/

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“And then they said, ‘Well, you should have used a unique password and two-factor authentication, and if you did, you know, that would be that,'” Sud said.

In other words, they hooked up the security system, used "password" as their password, and are shocked that someone hacked it.
Stupid people are easy targets.

Title: Re: Home (In)Security
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 12:58:24 PM

So it's a big bad companie's fault that they're too lazy or too stupid to change the password off the defaults.  :facepalm:
In the IT world we filed things like this under RTFM (Read the ****** Manual) Bet the manual states multiple times to change the password.

Title: Re: Home (In)Security
Post by: mtnbkr on February 07, 2019, 02:01:11 PM

I have two external Nest cameras (doorbell and plain external camera to cover front and back yards).  I bought both of mine last year and know the two-factor suggestion is PLAINLY stated in the documentation and is suggested in the settings section of your web access configuration page. 

Also, hacked passwords are traded online by hackers.  If you're using a previously hacked password for your Nest account, you're at even greater risk of getting pwned.  I know a password I used to use years ago is "out there", so I no longer use it.  Point is, Nest didn't get "hacked" these stupid people got themselves hacked through their own ignorance and laziness.

Chris

Title: Re: Home (In)Security
Post by: MillCreek on February 07, 2019, 02:19:48 PM

Quote from: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 12:58:24 PM

So it's a big bad companie's fault that they're too lazy or too stupid to change the password off the defaults.  :facepalm:
In the IT world we filed things like this under RTFM (Read the ****** Manual) Bet the manual states multiple times to change the password.

In the risk management/insurance world, we have a similar concept when someone complains that something is not covered by insurance: RTFP, for read the *******policy.

Title: Re: Home (In)Security
Post by: MechAg94 on February 07, 2019, 02:44:09 PM

I think I am good.  I don't use "password" like some idiot.  I use 123456. 

Title: Re: Home (In)Security
Post by: Regolith on February 07, 2019, 08:40:29 PM

Quote from: MechAg94 on February 07, 2019, 02:44:09 PM

I think I am good.  I don't use "password" like some idiot.  I use 123456. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k

Title: Re: Home (In)Security
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 08:44:46 PM

(https://pics.me.me/changed-all-my-passwords-to-incorrect-so-whenever-i-forget-7222956.png)