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Title: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: MechAg94 on February 02, 2019, 03:50:44 PM
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2716045002?__twitter_impression=true

Article on asset forfeiture seizures by police in South Carolina (in general, not a specific case).  Same thing I have seen written about in other states. 

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This yielded a clear picture of what is happening: Police are systematically seizing cash and property — many times from people who aren’t guilty of a crime — netting millions of dollars each year. South Carolina law enforcement profits from this policing tactic: The bulk of the money ends up in its possession.

Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: Ben on February 02, 2019, 04:05:25 PM
I can't wait for a Federal law making this illegal, and I can only hope penalties include jail time. I'm sure I'll be holding my breath a long time though.
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: Firethorn on February 02, 2019, 07:20:45 PM
I can't wait for a Federal law making this illegal, and I can only hope penalties include jail time. I'm sure I'll be holding my breath a long time though.

The problem is that the feds are actively aiding and abetting it at this time.  Some states have made this illegal under state law.  The police response was to start "partnering" with the FBI.  The FBI takes 10%, and gives the rest back to the local police  It's all federal, so state law doesn't apply.

They were starting to limit the federal programs when Jeff Sessions, known anti-drug crusader, was appointed and flipped everything, opening the program right back up.
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: HankB on February 03, 2019, 12:33:30 PM
I'm surprised there haven't been . . . reprisals . . . from any of their victims yet. Maybe we're really a lot more peaceful as a society than some people think.
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: HeroHog on February 03, 2019, 01:46:34 PM
1 word: "KillDozer"
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: Scout26 on February 03, 2019, 04:55:47 PM
This does not give me warm fuzzies about moving there,  but I understand this is a nationwide problem.
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on February 03, 2019, 07:41:02 PM
This does not give me warm fuzzies about moving there,  but I understand this is a nationwide problem.

Yep, nationwide. And it appears that of all 50 states, South Kleptolina might just be the worst.   ;/
Title: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: Boomhauer on February 03, 2019, 07:47:37 PM
Yep, nationwide. And it appears that of all 50 states, South Kleptolina might just be the worst.   ;/

Don’t make that bet just yet...

https://newsok.com/article/3864488/oklahoma-da-halts-i-40-drug-stops-after-criticism


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Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 03, 2019, 08:53:53 PM
Don’t make that bet just yet...

https://newsok.com/article/3864488/oklahoma-da-halts-i-40-drug-stops-after-criticism


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That was almost 6 years ago. I only vaguely remember hearing about it and IIRC it was mostly just allowed to fade away and be forgotten.

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That … at least gives the appearance that these seizures are done for profit and not to protect the citizens,” he said.


FTFY
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on February 03, 2019, 09:03:51 PM
Don’t make that bet just yet...

https://newsok.com/article/3864488/oklahoma-da-halts-i-40-drug-stops-after-criticism


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Kinda had this in mind from the USA today article ( https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2716045002?__twitter_impression=true (https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2716045002?__twitter_impression=true) ):
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In many other places, changes are being made: 29 states have taken steps to reform their forfeiture process. Fifteen states now require a criminal conviction before property can be forfeited, according to the Institute for Justice, a non-profit libertarian law firm.

South Carolina lawmakers have crafted reform bills in recent General Assembly sessions, but none of the efforts made it out of committee.

To critics, South Carolina is the poster child for the injustice inherent in the for-profit civil forfeiture system, said Louis Rulli, a law expert at the University of Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: HeroHog on February 03, 2019, 10:23:52 PM
I-10 across South Louisiana is a cash cow for that carp as well...
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: MechAg94 on February 04, 2019, 12:00:40 AM
I-10 across South Louisiana is a cash cow for that carp as well...
That is the source of most of the stories I have heard.  Maybe just closer.
Title: Re: SC police make millions by seizing cash and property.
Post by: Pb on February 04, 2019, 09:42:21 AM
Armed robbery.   :mad:

Why hasn't the Supreme Court stopped this yet?