Post by: Perd Hapley on July 30, 2007, 03:26:28 PM
More pictures from the Miss Arab World contest.
Post by: Nitrogen on July 30, 2007, 03:54:49 PM
My admiration for her beauty is by the fact that she probably wants to push the Jews back into the sea, though.
I have to say, there's something sexy about a hajab, but when you think about the repression that it represents, it spoiles that as well.
Post by: Tallpine on July 30, 2007, 04:09:48 PM
Post by: The Viking on July 30, 2007, 04:37:06 PM
I was expecting a Burka with eyeholes
Same here.
Post by: Bigjake on July 30, 2007, 05:06:32 PM
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Miss Palestine is beautiful
but did they check her name belt thingy? Palis have this irritating habit of spontaneously 'asploding
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2007, 05:10:11 PM
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Post by: Antibubba on July 30, 2007, 07:50:24 PM
I dare anyone to tell me the winner isn't a near-twin of Monica Lewinsky!!
Post by: De Selby on July 30, 2007, 09:49:48 PM
It's really quite ironic that people can stare at a beauty pageant photo, and then notice the oppression in the scarves on their heads but not in the pageant itself.
Beauty contests are not a sign of the advancement of women's rights. The fact that a country holds meatmarket style displays of women to award one or the other an honor based on her appearance does not indicate that this country respects women.
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But I have to agree...Miss Palestine is beautiful. And Miss Iraq is...I hope unmarried?
Post by: SomeKid on July 30, 2007, 11:48:54 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 31, 2007, 01:59:45 AM
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Miss Iraq is...I hope unmarried?
They should all be unmarried; it is the MISS Arab World contest. I think it may be a stretch to assume that a hijab or a beauty contest are necessarily oppressive. But I'm just a terrible sexist, anyway.
Post by: HankB on July 31, 2007, 03:27:27 AM
Ms. Iraq looks like she caught an IED in the face.
Actually, looking at Ms. Iraq, I'm thinking "drag queen" . . . 
Post by: Stand_watie on July 31, 2007, 04:29:40 AM
Ms. Iraq looks like she caught an IED in the face.
Actually, looking at Ms. Iraq, I'm thinking "drag queen" . . . You people are just cruel. She looks like a dusky Tammy Fay Baker.
Post by: K Frame on July 31, 2007, 05:23:50 AM
Yeah, I have to agree, and think it's just absolutely HORRIBLE that there are bands of contestant impressment gangs roving the world whose job is to, at gun point, force liberated women to participate in these cattle shows.
The women who "win," the ones who cry when the tiarra is placed on their heads?
Those are tears of SHAME.
Post by: HankB on July 31, 2007, 05:53:01 AM
Ms. Iraq looks like she caught an IED in the face.
Actually, looking at Ms. Iraq, I'm thinking "drag queen" . . . Post by: MechAg94 on July 31, 2007, 07:26:22 AM
Post by: De Selby on July 31, 2007, 04:39:34 PM
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Miss Iraq is...I hope unmarried?
They should all be unmarried; it is the MISS Arab World contest. I think it may be a stretch to assume that a hijab or a beauty contest are necessarily oppressive. But I'm just a terrible sexist, anyway.
I guess I should agree with you, but then what would we argue about?
I don't think either are necessarily oppressive either; I do think of the two, the beauty contest is much more likely to reflect the problem.
Mike,
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Yeah, I have to agree, and think it's just absolutely HORRIBLE that there are bands of contestant impressment gangs roving the world whose job is to, at gun point, force liberated women to participate in these cattle shows.
Obviously I have to concede the point you are making. Women do enter these things voluntarily-but that doesn't mean they're entering into a contest that is based on and promotes respect for women's rights.
I don't think the contests have to be forced to be oppressive or sexist. But that doesn't mean every contest is sexist either.
Post by: De Selby on July 31, 2007, 04:43:40 PM
I assume they are all married since their faces are uncovered.
Face covering is rare. I imagine it's forced in some places for whatever reason (like the guy is a jealous third world husband?), but the consensus is that not only is it not required, it's not even to be held up as "more virtuous" or anything like it.
Post by: Thor on July 31, 2007, 06:48:23 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 31, 2007, 07:41:22 PM
I guess I should agree with you, but then what would we argue about?
Pork rocks!
Post by: De Selby on August 01, 2007, 09:02:26 AM
I guess I should agree with you, but then what would we argue about?
Pork rocks!
Lamb rules
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Post by: De Selby on August 01, 2007, 01:58:56 PM
I'm Lutheran, and I love bacon.
beef bacon is great
Post by: Ron on August 01, 2007, 02:10:02 PM
Beauty contests play to how men and women are wired. That doesn't make it right or wrong, it just plays off of something deep in our genes.
Post by: RevDisk on August 01, 2007, 02:28:39 PM
I assume they are all married since their faces are uncovered.
Saudi, parts of Yemen, a lot of Iran, and a lot of Afghanistan, yea. Things aren't exactly great for women. Face coverings or burkas aren't common in plenty of other Arab/Muslim countries. From what I understand, they're exceedingly rare in UAE, Bahrain, Pakistan, and most of the smaller states. You'd honestly be surprised how liberal quite a few Arab states are if you've never been around the region. Except for during the civil war and the 2006 War, Beirut puts Vegas to shame in terms of uh 'having a good time'.
I dare ya to ask a Maronite girl why she's not wearing a burka. Just please have a camera handy!
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Obviously I have to concede the point you are making. Women do enter these things voluntarily-but that doesn't mean they're entering into a contest that is based on and promotes respect for women's rights.
I don't think the contests have to be forced to be oppressive or sexist. But that doesn't mean every contest is sexist either.
I don't think the contests have to be forced to be oppressive or sexist. But that doesn't mean every contest is sexist either.
The question is choice. It wouldn't be respectful of women's rights to forcibly shut down such pagents, 'for their own good' either.
Personally, I don't see the problem. Every time I've ever gone to the clubs, I've seen the same type of competitions. Women are naturally competitive when it comes to their peers. At least that's what I've noticed. That's the only logical reason I can think of as to why my ex's could take a couple hours dressing up to hit up the clubs. You don't want to know how many times I've heard complaining of how hard it is to conceal a Baby Eagle .40 cal or a USP compact .45 in a dress.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ruifipieggio/sets/72157601054484120/ - Slightly better photos
Hrm. Personally, toss up between Miss Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon. I'd have to say Miss Lebanon (green dress) because she looks like nothing but trouble. And that's the only kind of girl I personally find attractive.
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Post by: De Selby on August 02, 2007, 10:39:29 PM
It became a country retroactively as soon as the Jews moved into land nobody wanted anymore.
You seriously believe that no one wanted that land?They were just dismantling all the cities and moving out or what?
Where did you get the information that "nobody wanted the land anymore"?
Post by: Len Budney on August 04, 2007, 02:50:19 AM
--Len.
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Post by: Hawkmoon on August 05, 2007, 11:38:25 AM
I vote Miss Palestine, then Miss Morocco and finally Miss Iraq.
I'd vote Miss Iraq first, followed by Miss Palestine.If anyone offered me an arranged marriage to Miss Kuwait, I'd run away very fast.
Post by: bill larry on August 05, 2007, 03:36:59 PM
Umm...these girls are actually pretty hot...
I really think that Ms Iraq, Ms Palestine, and Ms Morocco are a-okay.
Post by: Boomhauer on August 05, 2007, 06:30:07 PM
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Umm...these girls are actually pretty hot...
I really think that Ms Iraq, Ms Palestine, and Ms Morocco are a-okay.
I really think that Ms Iraq, Ms Palestine, and Ms Morocco are a-okay.
Damn straight, buddy
I prefer brunettes, so I do like those three...they could stop by my house anytime...