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Daylight Savings Time
« on: March 12, 2017, 10:18:54 AM »
This year, I'm letting Twitchy make my annual rant for me, because I'm too damned sleepy this morning.  =D

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 01:41:50 PM »
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 02:21:51 PM »
My barber has informed me that we have Daylight Savings Time because:

a) black kids like to play in the street
b) black kids sustain injuries therefrom
c) we need more daylight, so people can see them gooder

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 02:23:40 PM »
Daylight Saving Time is a worthless anachronism. It didn't make sense when it was "invented," and it makes less sense today.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 03:50:20 PM »
You special snowflakes are so funny.  I can't imagine getting so worked up over such a minor issue. It's as if all the other problems in your life have been solved and you have to have something, anything, to rail against.

As for myself, while I appreciate having more daylight in the evening, I don't have a particularly strong opinion one way or another.  I can't wait till the peak days where it's daylight at 5:30am and the sun doesn't go down till 9pm.  I suppose without DST, that would be 4:30am-8pm.  Either way works for me. :)

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 03:54:33 PM »


I guess over the years I kind of got halfway used to it, but the switchover still throws me for a couple of days.

If you've got pets or livestock, you'll notice they hate it, too.  They're usually more sensible than we poor humans anyway.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2017, 04:15:24 PM »
You special snowflakes are so funny.  I can't imagine getting so worked up over such a minor issue. It's as if all the other problems in your life have been solved and you have to have something, anything, to rail against.

As for myself, while I appreciate having more daylight in the evening, I don't have a particularly strong opinion one way or another.  I can't wait till the peak days where it's daylight at 5:30am and the sun doesn't go down till 9pm.  I suppose without DST, that would be 4:30am-8pm.  Either way works for me. :)

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2017, 04:28:27 PM »
You special snowflakes are so funny.  I can't imagine getting so worked up over such a minor issue. It's as if all the other problems in your life have been solved and you have to have something, anything, to rail against.

As for myself, while I appreciate having more daylight in the evening, I don't have a particularly strong opinion one way or another.  I can't wait till the peak days where it's daylight at 5:30am and the sun doesn't go down till 9pm.  I suppose without DST, that would be 4:30am-8pm.  Either way works for me. :)

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2017, 04:32:54 PM »

I guess over the years I kind of got halfway used to it, but the switchover still throws me for a couple of days.

If you've got pets or livestock, you'll notice they hate it, too.  They're usually more sensible than we poor humans anyway.


Critters that get used to a set schedule deal far less well with fall back.

Some years ago the ex and I were at the zoo in DC on the Sunday fall back, and someone forgot to let the big cats know that the feeding schedule would be adjusted back by an hour.

They were all restless, but the lion was freaking the hell out, battering the enclosure door with his paws and chuffing. Then he let out a series of bloodcurdling roars... The hairs on the back of my neck literally stood up.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 05:05:41 PM »
^ Heh.

One nice thing about it is that I'm beginning to dislike driving at night in my old age and dotage, so it opens up a little more time to do erranding in the afternoon... or "prevening," as Dr. Cooper would put it.

I hate driving anywhere around the equinoxes since streets are usually laid out along the cardinal compass points and the sunrise and sunset glare driving due E or W is ridiculous.  You'd think they would have been smart enough to lay out streets 23 1/2° offset from N, E, W, and S in the first place.  =D

One thing I noticed about my Subaru is the dashboard, even though it's stippled and black, reflects that light right into your (my) face, so I (you) get a double whammy of glare.  I bought a swatch of black velvet to park on the dashboard, but that didn't work too well, either.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 05:09:25 PM »
Critters that get used to a set schedule deal far less well with fall back.

My dog definitely lets me know if I forget the time change in the Fall. This time of the year she doesn't care so much, because if I forget, it just means she eats an hour earlier. She's good with that.  :laugh:

On the tangent, it's amazing how well animals can tell time without a wristwatch. :)
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2017, 05:15:02 PM »
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2017, 06:24:29 PM »
As for myself, while I appreciate having more daylight in the evening, I don't have a particularly strong opinion one way or another.  I can't wait till the peak days where it's daylight at 5:30am and the sun doesn't go down till 9pm.  I suppose without DST, that would be 4:30am-8pm.  Either way works for me. :)

And you'd be more or less toward the eastern limit of the eastern time zone, yes? No, looks like Virginia is actually about halfway across the eastern zone. But it points out the silliness of playing games with "daylight saving time" once we allowed the railroads to break the country down into standardized zones. On June 21st, sunset at the eastern edge of any time zone will be roughly an hour earlier than at the western edge -- and that's at the same latitude. Compare sunset times in Eastport, Maine, against Pensacola, Florida. Same time zone, but the sunrise and sunset times are going to be vastly different.

I've never seen a satisfactory, coherent explanation of just how DST saves energy. As for giving farmers "more" daylight -- the amount of daylight on any given day is the same. Farmers don't work 9:00 to 5:00 -- if they want to get up at whatever time the sun rises and go to bed at whatever time the sun sets, there's nothing stopping them.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2017, 06:26:45 PM »
I try to stay in sync with the sun so the 1 hour either way doesn't really effect me dramatically.

If I had my way though I would end DST.

Intuitively it just seems wrong to mess with the clock.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2017, 06:30:54 PM »
Since I work nights it no longer makes a difference to me either way. But, when I was on days I did like the extra daylight time after getting home from work.
If I had my druthers I'd stay on DST all the time.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2017, 07:21:02 PM »
Might Sunday afternoon nap, and subsequently diner, schedule has just been all screwed up.

*expletive deleted*ing DST.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2017, 08:31:59 PM »
Might Sunday afternoon nap, and subsequently diner, schedule has just been all screwed up.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2017, 08:37:34 PM »
I loath it in the spring. I don't mind the Fall back so much. This has already been a screwed up weekend thanks to my coworker being sick and unable to understand how cell phones work (he keeps calling the shop and leaving a message which won't get heard until well after the point my bosses need to know to call me in) So, in addition to not getting any time off this week and being woken out of a sound sleep on Saturday morning so I could go to work, I lost an hour this morning.

And it does screw up the dogs, especially senile ones who don't remember that they just ate an hour ago.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2017, 10:19:33 PM »
And you'd be more or less toward the eastern limit of the eastern time zone, yes? No, looks like Virginia is actually about halfway across the eastern zone. But it points out the silliness of playing games with "daylight saving time" once we allowed the railroads to break the country down into standardized zones. On June 21st, sunset at the eastern edge of any time zone will be roughly an hour earlier than at the western edge -- and that's at the same latitude. Compare sunset times in Eastport, Maine, against Pensacola, Florida. Same time zone, but the sunrise and sunset times are going to be vastly different.

I've never seen a satisfactory, coherent explanation of just how DST saves energy. As for giving farmers "more" daylight -- the amount of daylight on any given day is the same. Farmers don't work 9:00 to 5:00 -- if they want to get up at whatever time the sun rises and go to bed at whatever time the sun sets, there's nothing stopping them.


Just a dumb question and maybe a thread veer, but do any of you actually work 9 AM to 5 PM?  When I first started work at salary, it was 8 AM to 5 PM with an hour lunch.  I generally do about 7:30 to 4:30 now.  The hourly guys at work do 7 AM to 3:30 PM with 30 min lunch. 

I generally dislike DST.  If they pick on or the other, I would rather drive to work in the dark than have it get dark early in the evening.  I could adjust either way I guess. 
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2017, 10:44:25 PM »
When I was on days with my current company it was 8-5 with an hour lunch, night shift is 2200-0600, lunch on the job. I did work for one place for about a year that was 9-5 with a paid 1 hour lunch, it was a great place to work but it just wasn't ever going to be big enough for serious advancement $$.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2017, 11:04:42 PM »
Just a dumb question and maybe a thread veer, but do any of you actually work 9 AM to 5 PM?  When I first started work at salary, it was 8 AM to 5 PM with an hour lunch.  I generally do about 7:30 to 4:30 now.  The hourly guys at work do 7 AM to 3:30 PM with 30 min lunch. 

I generally dislike DST.  If they pick on or the other, I would rather drive to work in the dark than have it get dark early in the evening.  I could adjust either way I guess. 

I'm 7:30 till whenever we get done and I have a hard time falling asleep and waking up. Getting awake and functional enough to get out the door is a little easier if it's light out, so I'd actually rather be light in the morning. The thing is it just doesn't make that much of a difference to my mind. In a month or so dawn and dusk will be far enough apart that it will be light the whole time, and the opposite come Fall Back. Either way you're going to be commuting and such in dark/light for more time than the supposed savings provides.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2017, 04:22:03 AM »
9 AM to 5 PM?

It's sort of a "term of art" at this point, and not a literal time frame.

I suppose you could use "banker's hours" in the same way.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2017, 05:18:04 AM »
I work grave, so DST means I go home an hour earlier. Yay!
When it ends in the fall, I stay at work an hour more, but we get overtime pay for that. So again, Yay!
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2017, 07:07:56 AM »
When I was on days with my current company it was 8-5 with an hour lunch, night *expletive deleted*it is 2200-0600, lunch on the job. I did work for one place for about a year that was 9-5 with a paid 1 hour lunch, it was a great place to work but it just wasn't ever going to be big enough for serious advancement $$.

I used to work 8 to 4 when I was with Navy Federal.

Then I came to my current company, and more and more I've been able to set my own hours over the years.

Currently I'm generally working 5:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m.
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Re: Daylight Savings Time
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2017, 10:49:28 AM »
Just a dumb question and maybe a thread veer, but do any of you actually work 9 AM to 5 PM?  When I first started work at salary, it was 8 AM to 5 PM with an hour lunch.  I generally do about 7:30 to 4:30 now.  The hourly guys at work do 7 AM to 3:30 PM with 30 min lunch. 

I generally dislike DST.  If they pick on or the other, I would rather drive to work in the dark than have it get dark early in the evening.  I could adjust either way I guess. 
Actually, my current schedule is 9-5. Usually, it's our slow season so boss asking if I want to go home early isn't uncommon. If I decline I either catch up on piddly stuff in my "whenever I have a minute" pile. Or if that's depleted get paid to do whatever I can come up with to look somewhat busy and productive. If I do go I can either not get paid for the hours or fill out the little paper for HR and burn some pto hours.

Not a bad schedule really.


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